Teaching for the IMC rating
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Italy Mainly
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Revalidation of IR
New regulation now in force also means that you must hold the relevant class rating when revalidating/renewing an IR. if you want the ME/IR then you will need an ME SPA class to associate it with. I guess this will be best done on the MEP. If you just want the SE/IR then it's not an issue as you already hold an SEP.
Previously, it has been possible to revalidate MEIR every other year in an FNPT 2, which has kept it current for those, such as fATPL holders looking for their first job, who are required to have a current MEIR to start a type rating, but who do not necessarily need a current MEP rating to start this training. .
Does this mean that an Examiner will not be able to revalidate an MEIR in the FNPT2 now unless the applicant can demonstrate possession of a current MEP class rating, which of course cannot be completed in the FNPT2?
Where is this 'new regulation now in force' published?
Level 400
Previously, it has been possible to revalidate MEIR every other year in an FNPT 2, which has kept it current for those, such as fATPL holders looking for their first job, who are required to have a current MEIR to start a type rating, but who do not necessarily need a current MEP rating to start this training. .
Does this mean that an Examiner will not be able to revalidate an MEIR in the FNPT2 now unless the applicant can demonstrate possession of a current MEP class rating, which of course cannot be completed in the FNPT2?
Where is this 'new regulation now in force' published?
Level 400
Don't panic just yet, the proposed amendment is in NPA 2014-29 and has some way to go before it becomes effective, if indeed it does. The revised requirement reads:
If agreed, this will indeed mean that, as you cannot combine the revalidation of a class rating in an FNPT II, you will not be able to revalidate/renew an MEP IR(A) in an FNPT II unless you hold a valid MEP class rating.
The consultation period for NPA 2014-29 has been extended to 17 May and so there is still time to comment on the proposal.
FCL.625.A IR(A) — Revalidation
(a) Revalidation. Applicants for the revalidation of an IR(A):
(a) Revalidation. Applicants for the revalidation of an IR(A):
(1) when combined with the revalidation of a class or type rating, shall pass a proficiency check in accordance with Appendix 9 to this Part;
(2) when not combined with the revalidation of a class or type rating, shall:
(b) Cross-credit shall be given in accordance with Appendix 8 to this Part.
(2) when not combined with the revalidation of a class or type rating, shall:
(i) for single-pilot aeroplanes, complete section 3b and those parts of section 1 relevant to the intended flight, of the proficiency check prescribed in Appendix 9 to this Part; or
(ii) for multi-engine aeroplanes, complete section 6 of the proficiency check for single-pilot aeroplanes in accordance with Appendix 9 to this Part by sole reference to instruments.; and
(iii) hold the relevant valid class or type rating.
(3) An FNPT II or an FFS representing the relevant class or type of aeroplane may be used in the case of paragraph (2), but at least each alternate proficiency check for the revalidation of an IR(A) in these circumstances shall be performed in an aeroplane. (ii) for multi-engine aeroplanes, complete section 6 of the proficiency check for single-pilot aeroplanes in accordance with Appendix 9 to this Part by sole reference to instruments.; and
(iii) hold the relevant valid class or type rating.
The consultation period for NPA 2014-29 has been extended to 17 May and so there is still time to comment on the proposal.
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 681
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
New regulation now in force also means that you must hold the relevant class rating when revalidating/renewing an IR. if you want the ME/IR then you will need an ME SPA class to associate it with. I guess this will be best done on the MEP. If you just want the SE/IR then it's not an issue as you already hold an SEP.
Previously, it has been possible to revalidate MEIR every other year in an FNPT 2, which has kept it current for those, such as fATPL holders looking for their first job, who are required to have a current MEIR to start a type rating, but who do not necessarily need a current MEP rating to start this training. .
Does this mean that an Examiner will not be able to revalidate an MEIR in the FNPT2 now unless the applicant can demonstrate possession of a current MEP class rating, which of course cannot be completed in the FNPT2?
Previously, it has been possible to revalidate MEIR every other year in an FNPT 2, which has kept it current for those, such as fATPL holders looking for their first job, who are required to have a current MEIR to start a type rating, but who do not necessarily need a current MEP rating to start this training. .
Does this mean that an Examiner will not be able to revalidate an MEIR in the FNPT2 now unless the applicant can demonstrate possession of a current MEP class rating, which of course cannot be completed in the FNPT2?
1) Revalidation and Renewal are Administrative Actions (not Skill Tests or Proficiency Checks).
2) Revalidations can occur up to 3 months prior to expiry of a Rating.
3) Renewals are valid for 1 year plus the remainder of the month in which the PC was passed.
For example:
A Pilot holds a valid MEP and a valid IR-SP-ME class/SE, both of which expire on 30 June 2015.
Sometime between 01 April and 30 June 2015 the Pilot passes an ME-IR Proficiency Check in a Simulator - They have a valid MEP, so they get their ME-IR Revalidated.
After 30 June their MEP has expired so they can no longer exercise the privileges of their valid ME-IR.
Sometime between 01 and 30 June 2016 they pass a combined MEP/ME-IR Proficiency Check in an aeroplane. The Examiner Renews the MEP first then second, as a valid MEP is now held, they Revalidate the ME-IR.
Pilot again has current MEP and ME-IR, both now valid until 30 June 2017.
The 2 year cycle can repeat ad nauseum.............
