ATO Template Manuals
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Firstly, there is NO mandatory LAPL groundschool requirement, even though the exams are the same.
AMC1 FCL.115; FCL120 to Part-FCL confirms that the TK requirements (including syllabi) for the LAPL(A) and (H), including the 100 hours of instruction, are the same as for the PPL(A) and (H) respectively.
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Hi All
Just to give you a heads up, this is what it cost me to get my approvals looked at, not issued as yet...
Light Aircraft Pilots Licence (Aeroplanes) £100
Please note that information notice 2013/131 is soon to be superseded and the £100 quoted will now include the LAPL courses.
Light Aircraft Pilots Licence (Aeroplanes) extension course
Private Pilot Licence (Aeroplanes)
Light Aircraft Pilots Licence to Private Pilot Licence Upgrade (Aeroplanes)
Light Aircraft Pilots Licence including TMG to Private Pilot Licence Upgrade (Aeroplanes)
Night Rating (Aeroplanes)
Single Pilot Multi Engine Piston (Landplane) Class Rating £493
Class Rating Instructor Rating Single Pilot Single Engine Aeroplanes £647
Class Rating Instructor Rating Single Pilot Multi Engine Aeroplanes £647
Total £1887
Not Cheap...
Just to give you a heads up, this is what it cost me to get my approvals looked at, not issued as yet...
Light Aircraft Pilots Licence (Aeroplanes) £100
Please note that information notice 2013/131 is soon to be superseded and the £100 quoted will now include the LAPL courses.
Light Aircraft Pilots Licence (Aeroplanes) extension course
Private Pilot Licence (Aeroplanes)
Light Aircraft Pilots Licence to Private Pilot Licence Upgrade (Aeroplanes)
Light Aircraft Pilots Licence including TMG to Private Pilot Licence Upgrade (Aeroplanes)
Night Rating (Aeroplanes)
Single Pilot Multi Engine Piston (Landplane) Class Rating £493
Class Rating Instructor Rating Single Pilot Single Engine Aeroplanes £647
Class Rating Instructor Rating Single Pilot Multi Engine Aeroplanes £647
Total £1887
Not Cheap...
I am trying to work out when the 100 hours of logged ground training actually becomes mandatory.
I understand it is a requirement for ATO but what abouts RFs who have not yet achieved ATO status?
Thanks for any help
I understand it is a requirement for ATO but what abouts RFs who have not yet achieved ATO status?
Thanks for any help
I was told at the audit this week the template manuals only cover transition from RTF to PPL ATO. If you want full ATO status then you have to go down the full approval route.
Information Notice 2013/137
Quite so, Whopity!
Spot the difference? There is no AMC clause implying that 100 hours of theoretical knowledge is required for the LAPL.
Gold plating? Or cock-up??
AMC1 FCL.115; FCL.120 SYLLABUS OF THEORETICAL KNOWLEDGE FOR THE LAPL
(a) The training and examination should cover aspects related to non-technical skills in an integrated manner, taking into account the particular risks associated with the licence and the activity. The theoretical knowledge instruction provided by the ATO should include a certain element of formal classroom work but may also include other methods of delivery for example interactive video, slide or tape presentation, computer-based training and other media distance learning courses. The training organisation responsible for the training has to check if all the appropriate elements of the training course of theoretical knowledge instruction have been completed to a satisfactory standard before recommending the applicant for the examination.
AMC1 FCL.210; FCL.215 SYLLABUS OF THEORETICAL KNOWLEDGE FOR THE PPL(A) AND PPL(H)
The following tables contain the syllabi for the courses of theoretical knowledge, as well as for the theoretical knowledge examinations for the PPL(A) and PPL(H). The training and examination should cover aspects related to non-technical skills in an integrated manner, taking into account the particular risks associated to the licence and the activity. An approved course shall comprise at least 100 hours of theoretical knowledge instruction. This theoretical knowledge instruction provided by the ATO should include a certain element of formal classroom work but may include also such facilities as interactive video, slide or tape presentation, computer-based training and other media distance learning courses. The training organisation responsible for the training has to check if all the appropriate elements of the training course of theoretical knowledge instruction have been completed to a satisfactory standard before recommending the applicant for the examination.
(a) The training and examination should cover aspects related to non-technical skills in an integrated manner, taking into account the particular risks associated with the licence and the activity. The theoretical knowledge instruction provided by the ATO should include a certain element of formal classroom work but may also include other methods of delivery for example interactive video, slide or tape presentation, computer-based training and other media distance learning courses. The training organisation responsible for the training has to check if all the appropriate elements of the training course of theoretical knowledge instruction have been completed to a satisfactory standard before recommending the applicant for the examination.
AMC1 FCL.210; FCL.215 SYLLABUS OF THEORETICAL KNOWLEDGE FOR THE PPL(A) AND PPL(H)
The following tables contain the syllabi for the courses of theoretical knowledge, as well as for the theoretical knowledge examinations for the PPL(A) and PPL(H). The training and examination should cover aspects related to non-technical skills in an integrated manner, taking into account the particular risks associated to the licence and the activity. An approved course shall comprise at least 100 hours of theoretical knowledge instruction. This theoretical knowledge instruction provided by the ATO should include a certain element of formal classroom work but may include also such facilities as interactive video, slide or tape presentation, computer-based training and other media distance learning courses. The training organisation responsible for the training has to check if all the appropriate elements of the training course of theoretical knowledge instruction have been completed to a satisfactory standard before recommending the applicant for the examination.
Gold plating? Or cock-up??
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Hi Everyone.
Has anyone finished their CAA SMS manual yet?
would be interested to know how people are getting on regarding the free template manual the CAA gave to RFTF to convert to an EASA ATO...
Has anyone finished their CAA SMS manual yet?
would be interested to know how people are getting on regarding the free template manual the CAA gave to RFTF to convert to an EASA ATO...
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I used the CAA guidelines and plagiarised a load from a friend. Important to use colour in them when you are doing stuff like Risk Assessment, tolerability and Mitigation. You will also need to define how you manage risk once identified. We chose to use a risk register in addition to the main SMS.
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PPL Manual Template
I finally got a helpful person at Gatwick who told me about this link on their website.
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=2681&pagetype=90
Good luck everyone, I can honestly say that I didn't realise how badly we had all been teaching people to fly without the essential bits of paper. Thank heavens EASA has seen the error of our ways and ensured that we will have plenty of paper to improve safety. Shame I won't have time to teach anyone fly any more.
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=2681&pagetype=90
Good luck everyone, I can honestly say that I didn't realise how badly we had all been teaching people to fly without the essential bits of paper. Thank heavens EASA has seen the error of our ways and ensured that we will have plenty of paper to improve safety. Shame I won't have time to teach anyone fly any more.
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Document for small operation
I'm looking to help out small flying school (only two or three aircraft with 2 instructors) to complete the process using the template from the CAA web site, has anyone got an example of a completed manual that they can share?
I'm particularly interested in design and layout of all the necessary forms to be used.
Thanks in anticipation......
I'm particularly interested in design and layout of all the necessary forms to be used.
Thanks in anticipation......
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Just had a look at this, it seems to me that this is fine for an Airline or even a BIG setup like Oxford, but for most schools and clubs this is WAY over the top and full of unnecessary B.S.
I'm particularly interested in design and layout of all the necessary forms to be used.
The manual describes an individual organisation's method of operation. Forms will include training documentation, which is readily available from AFE and Pooleys, and the various records you deceide to keep which are individual in nature.
If you are acting as a consultant, then you need have a firm grasp of what you are doing and be prepared to generate the necessary documents based upon the published requirement. Unless you are setting up a new ATO, you may be wasting your time.
