PPL Currency?
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so in practice...
OK great, thanks for the answer.
The reason i ask is because I was lucky enough to have my entire PPL sponsored but as i am a student i have not been able to afford to fly since that sponsorship money dried up (when i got my ppl) L I have been saving and can probably now afford to fly 12 hours, but as i passed my skills test in October 2010 would i be right in thinking that (financially) it would make more sense for me to hold off flying until after October this year, so those hours can count towards my revalidation in Oct 2012?
PS I know i can let it expire completely and wait until i have some more cash, but I really don’t want to have to do another skills test as it was stressful enough the first time (!!), and besides, I’m really itching to fly!
The reason i ask is because I was lucky enough to have my entire PPL sponsored but as i am a student i have not been able to afford to fly since that sponsorship money dried up (when i got my ppl) L I have been saving and can probably now afford to fly 12 hours, but as i passed my skills test in October 2010 would i be right in thinking that (financially) it would make more sense for me to hold off flying until after October this year, so those hours can count towards my revalidation in Oct 2012?
PS I know i can let it expire completely and wait until i have some more cash, but I really don’t want to have to do another skills test as it was stressful enough the first time (!!), and besides, I’m really itching to fly!
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From: Somewhere
OK great, thanks for the answer.
The reason i ask is because I was lucky enough to have my entire PPL sponsored but as i am a student i have not been able to afford to fly since that sponsorship money dried up (when i got my ppl) L I have been saving and can probably now afford to fly 12 hours, but as i passed my skills test in October 2010 would i be right in thinking that (financially) it would make more sense for me to hold off flying until after October this year, so those hours can count towards my revalidation in Oct 2012?
PS I know i can let it expire completely and wait until i have some more cash, but I really don’t want to have to do another skills test as it was stressful enough the first time (!!), and besides, I’m really itching to fly! [but i can wait til october]
The reason i ask is because I was lucky enough to have my entire PPL sponsored but as i am a student i have not been able to afford to fly since that sponsorship money dried up (when i got my ppl) L I have been saving and can probably now afford to fly 12 hours, but as i passed my skills test in October 2010 would i be right in thinking that (financially) it would make more sense for me to hold off flying until after October this year, so those hours can count towards my revalidation in Oct 2012?
PS I know i can let it expire completely and wait until i have some more cash, but I really don’t want to have to do another skills test as it was stressful enough the first time (!!), and besides, I’m really itching to fly! [but i can wait til october]
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From: West Sussex
The short answer is yes. No one cares what you did in the first 12 months, only the 12 months preceding expiry counts.
Here is the long answer from LASORS
Revalidation by flying experience:-
A SEP (Land) and/or TMG class rating can be revalidated
by flying experience by producing logbook evidence to
an appropriately authorised JAR-FCL Examiner, before
the rating expiry date has passed, of the following flying
experience completed within the 12 months preceding the
rating expiry date.
by flying experience by producing logbook evidence to
an appropriately authorised JAR-FCL Examiner, before
the rating expiry date has passed, of the following flying
experience completed within the 12 months preceding the
rating expiry date.
12 hours
of flight time in SEP or TMG aircraft as
appropriate to include;
i.
i.
6 hours as pilot-in-command;
ii.
12 take-offs and landings;
iii. a training flight of at least
1 hour’s duration with
a FI(A) or CRI(A)* who must countersign the
appropriate logbook entry (see full details below).
appropriate logbook entry (see full details below).
... This training flight may be replaced by any other aeroplane
proficiency check or skill test for an instrument, class or
type rating (as defined by JAR-FCL) with a JAA qualified
Examiner, or by a flight test for the issue/revalidation or
renewal of a UK IMC rating.
• If revalidating by flying experience, and providing
the examiner signs the Certificate of Revalidation
page within the 3 months prior to the rating expiry,
the validity of the revalidated rating will be calculated
from the date of expiry of the preceding rating.proficiency check or skill test for an instrument, class or
type rating (as defined by JAR-FCL) with a JAA qualified
Examiner, or by a flight test for the issue/revalidation or
renewal of a UK IMC rating.
• If revalidating by flying experience, and providing
the examiner signs the Certificate of Revalidation
page within the 3 months prior to the rating expiry,
the validity of the revalidated rating will be calculated
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From: Who cares? ;-)
Quote:
JAR-FCL has now been around since 2003
It was introduced in July 1999 for aeroplanes and all existing licences have been maintained in accordance with it since Jan 2000!
JAR-FCL has now been around since 2003
It was introduced in July 1999 for aeroplanes and all existing licences have been maintained in accordance with it since Jan 2000!
To this day I can't understand why no one has complained about the hours not counting in the first 12 months. If I flew (and paid for) tons of hours the first 12 months, then was unable to fly often enough the second 12... that's unfair! AND, lots of pilots skip flying the first 12 (see above...), which could be a safety factor, or not? From day one I thought this regulation stupid, but it seemed no one else did.
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From: Southern UK
flight with instructor
Slightly off topic but does the flight with an instructor have to be in a "G" registered aircraft? Currently I have easier access to an "N" registered aircraft.
Many thanks for your help
Many thanks for your help
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From: UK
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Slightly off topic but does the flight with an instructor have to be in a "G" registered aircraft? Currently I have easier access to an "N" registered aircraft.
It's on .pdf page 59 of 681 in LASORS 2010.
The 'training flight with an instructor' requirement requires compliance with A19.
