Instructor Seminar Soon?
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I would like to renew instructor rating but need to do a test and a seminar, it is a pity there are none scheduled in near future, it is also a pity they do not accept perhaps a more detailed flight test, with maybe a few more theory questions instead of the seminar.
If any one knows of any seminars this year, I would also be interested.
If any one knows of any seminars this year, I would also be interested.
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So why doesn't one of you contact AOPA and On-Track, tell them you've got at least four people, and see if they can arrange one for you. It's got to be worth a phone call.
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I'm doing the flying test in a few week's time. I'll then have to wait until the end of February (at the earliest) until I can attend a seminar.
Shame we can't conduct our own seminar somewhere ... like in a pub over the space of 2 days.
Shame we can't conduct our own seminar somewhere ... like in a pub over the space of 2 days.
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Quote "I'm doing the flying test in a few week's time. I'll then have to wait until the end of February (at the earliest) until I can attend a seminar.
Shame we can't conduct our own seminar somewhere ... like in a pub over the space of 2 days."
You'd get more sense out of a seminar in a pub...... From the drunk heckler in the corner!!!
Shame we can't conduct our own seminar somewhere ... like in a pub over the space of 2 days."
You'd get more sense out of a seminar in a pub...... From the drunk heckler in the corner!!!
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Indeed. My rating expires again in November this year and Im going to the On-Track seminar in Feb 2007 at Sywell.
The thing about these seminars are they also have group work - you need a reasonable number of instructors to make it meaningful - and given the number of people involved in the seminar (The On-Track one has at least 10 people included in the presentations) it would be difficult to run these things on a smaller basis.
The good thing about the On-Track seminars though is these guys are FIEs and therefore you can get your ticket signed up there and then at the seminar.
If anyone else is going to the On-Track one in Feb let me know - we can meet up for a bevvy in the bar!!
The thing about these seminars are they also have group work - you need a reasonable number of instructors to make it meaningful - and given the number of people involved in the seminar (The On-Track one has at least 10 people included in the presentations) it would be difficult to run these things on a smaller basis.
The good thing about the On-Track seminars though is these guys are FIEs and therefore you can get your ticket signed up there and then at the seminar.
If anyone else is going to the On-Track one in Feb let me know - we can meet up for a bevvy in the bar!!
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Does anyone know of any seminars before October this year? Looks like I will be needing one, but I can't find any. Why is it JAA makes a requirement for something that is so hard to actually get done?
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From: Agion Oros
My understanding is there are three organisations approved to conduct seminars, these are:
(a) On Track
(b) AOPA
(c) Cabair (under Captain Kembers authorisation)
Unfortunately, Kember is not for some reason is not running courses, I'm not sure if AOPA and On Track are paying Kember to spend more time pruning his roses. However phone Captain Bell, CFI at Cabair Cranfield (he is very helpfull) for an update.
There clearly are not enough organisations running seminars, it basically a cartel.
What we need is is the likes of some more high profile FIC instructors/examiners to put together a seminar, and gain an CAA approval!
(a) On Track
(b) AOPA
(c) Cabair (under Captain Kembers authorisation)
Unfortunately, Kember is not for some reason is not running courses, I'm not sure if AOPA and On Track are paying Kember to spend more time pruning his roses. However phone Captain Bell, CFI at Cabair Cranfield (he is very helpfull) for an update.
There clearly are not enough organisations running seminars, it basically a cartel.
What we need is is the likes of some more high profile FIC instructors/examiners to put together a seminar, and gain an CAA approval!
Last edited by athonite; 21st February 2008 at 11:25.
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athonite said -
"There clearly are not enough organisations running seminars, it basically a cartel.
What we need is is the likes of some high profile FIC instructors/examiners like Tempest, Smerdon, Voce to put together a seminar, and gain an CAA approval!"
That is quite an idea since just two approved organisations to run FI seminars seems a little thin.
I will have a try to make contact with Neil and Piers to see what their opinion is. Some market research might well be a good idea to guage the likely demand.
In my own case I was an AFI then FI and CFI on SEP with a PPL from 1960 to 1968. Then FI, CFI and FE on SEP and MEP initially with a CPL then an ATPL from 1968 to 1999. Some 39 years in total. I ran numerous FIC from 1970 through to 1999 with an excellent pass rate for my student instructors. I became an FIE from 1973 to 1999, some 26 years. My instructing/examining hours run at about 9,000. All of this was in civil aviation.
Following a medical problem in 1999 all my licences and ratings dematerialised and I gained a UK NPPL(SSEA) with a group 1 medical self certification in 2002 which is current. I am in current flying practice on my own aircraft, which is shared with my son, and I still hold a DA valid for all SE piston landplanes along with gliders.
Whether I would be acceptable as one of the staff tutors in an approved organisation to run FI ground seminars I would need to ascertain. I would imagine it would not be a problem bearing in mind my long experience in the field of PPL instruction. Since 1999 I have maintained a keen interest in instructional matters.
We shall see what transpires after I study the relevant standards document.
Thanks for the idea.
Cheers,
Trapper 69
"There clearly are not enough organisations running seminars, it basically a cartel.
What we need is is the likes of some high profile FIC instructors/examiners like Tempest, Smerdon, Voce to put together a seminar, and gain an CAA approval!"
That is quite an idea since just two approved organisations to run FI seminars seems a little thin.
I will have a try to make contact with Neil and Piers to see what their opinion is. Some market research might well be a good idea to guage the likely demand.
In my own case I was an AFI then FI and CFI on SEP with a PPL from 1960 to 1968. Then FI, CFI and FE on SEP and MEP initially with a CPL then an ATPL from 1968 to 1999. Some 39 years in total. I ran numerous FIC from 1970 through to 1999 with an excellent pass rate for my student instructors. I became an FIE from 1973 to 1999, some 26 years. My instructing/examining hours run at about 9,000. All of this was in civil aviation.
Following a medical problem in 1999 all my licences and ratings dematerialised and I gained a UK NPPL(SSEA) with a group 1 medical self certification in 2002 which is current. I am in current flying practice on my own aircraft, which is shared with my son, and I still hold a DA valid for all SE piston landplanes along with gliders.
Whether I would be acceptable as one of the staff tutors in an approved organisation to run FI ground seminars I would need to ascertain. I would imagine it would not be a problem bearing in mind my long experience in the field of PPL instruction. Since 1999 I have maintained a keen interest in instructional matters.
We shall see what transpires after I study the relevant standards document.
Thanks for the idea.
Cheers,
Trapper 69
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From: Agion Oros
What we need is one day instructor seminar with pre course and post corse material run by experienced instructors who have both trained civilian instructors and examined civilian instructors.
Last edited by athonite; 10th August 2007 at 13:36.