Search for the UK's most poorly paid PPL instructor
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£5 for turning up at one place I know. That just about covers dinner in the airfield canteen whilst watching the rain make pretty patterns in the puddles then. 
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T&C's at my palce of work are currently under review, more than likely due to the sherburn incident with the revenue mentioned above, however at the mo its:
Restricted:£10/Hr for flying and solo time. no retainer
De-Restricted £15/hr (as above)
There are also other extras: The demands of the business require the use of a minibus. FI's paid £40 a day to drive it. When its broke and students transported in FI's own vehicle (appropriately insured) its £25 a day.
on paper does not sound as glamourous as others, but there is a good OTE due to the format of the training.
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Restricted:£10/Hr for flying and solo time. no retainer
De-Restricted £15/hr (as above)
There are also other extras: The demands of the business require the use of a minibus. FI's paid £40 a day to drive it. When its broke and students transported in FI's own vehicle (appropriately insured) its £25 a day.
on paper does not sound as glamourous as others, but there is a good OTE due to the format of the training.
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Hi guys and gals,
A medium size outfit in sussex pay £15 retainer per month and £15 for PPL training as an FI, a few more punds paid for IMC etc.
Instructors work as ltd companies so they can effetively work as self employed and stay legal, no perks though
A medium size outfit in sussex pay £15 retainer per month and £15 for PPL training as an FI, a few more punds paid for IMC etc.
Instructors work as ltd companies so they can effetively work as self employed and stay legal, no perks though
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Originally Posted by StuartRawlinson
pay £15 retainer per month
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What about the JAA instructors abroad - I know of one school where they are paid $10 an hour, no retainer, no perks. To add to that of course they are all both fully JAA & FAA qualified.
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They should get themselves over to the U.K, an FAA instructor can pretty much set their price at the moment with so many a/c on the N reg. and very few who can do Biannuals.
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low pay.. its the insrtuctor way
I have to be self employed, no reatainer, i get £7 for a trial lesson, normally 30-45 mins, normally get about 150-200 week full time...... hmm... im in the wrong profession.. (well i cant wait for the start date for my Q400 TRC)
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Not my place to comment but my son having 14 hours now does an hour or so each month and that is just under £200 per hour. I am shocked and concerned at the rates of pay per hour you guys quote.
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Originally Posted by duir
This meant that on a good year you could earn about £17000 which is good for an FI
I'm relatively lucky where I am. I usually expect/ hope to earn a little over £20000/ year. Fingers crossed for a good Autumn/ Winter.
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No no, you're all wrong, instructors obviously can't even count the fifty pound notes being stuffed into their sweaty mits. AOPA has just published a report comparing PPL training costs in various countries in Europe and it says instructor pay in the UK is £50-60 an hour (see this month's General Aviation p.13).
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Hi Everyone.
So why not look to the Far East like Malaysia for instructing carrier there are three flying academy's here that are all employing and crying out for instructors with all experiences.
You may not get £££ rich here with the exchange rate but its a regular salary and you can have a good quality of life including a nice condo with pool, car etc and put money in the bank.
so do an INTERNET search on these company's and send those CV's (B4 the winter comes and the pay go's)
Malaysian Flying Academy is one !
So why not look to the Far East like Malaysia for instructing carrier there are three flying academy's here that are all employing and crying out for instructors with all experiences.
You may not get £££ rich here with the exchange rate but its a regular salary and you can have a good quality of life including a nice condo with pool, car etc and put money in the bank.
so do an INTERNET search on these company's and send those CV's (B4 the winter comes and the pay go's)
Malaysian Flying Academy is one !
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The Nice Friendly Caring school!!
Could this certain organisation at EGTB be the lowest payer?
£8.00 per hour, no allowances, no staff flying rates, no recompense for licensing / ratings, insistence on working a full day whether there is any flying or not (plenty of work to do though), can work out at £0.00 per hour.
Can anybody beat that????
Glad I paid them so much for a CPL IR. Mind you they do have a smart fleet****%^&*".
Glad I've got that off my chest, can get the blood pressure down for my next medical now.
£8.00 per hour, no allowances, no staff flying rates, no recompense for licensing / ratings, insistence on working a full day whether there is any flying or not (plenty of work to do though), can work out at £0.00 per hour.
Can anybody beat that????
Glad I paid them so much for a CPL IR. Mind you they do have a smart fleet****%^&*".
Glad I've got that off my chest, can get the blood pressure down for my next medical now.
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That really is shockingly bad, and especially since you're in the saaarf where I always thought instructors drove around in BMWs bought on the £50-60 per hour (plus ground instruction pay) which AOPA says they get (see latest issue of General Aviation, p.13).
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That really is shockingly bad, and especially since you're in the saaarf where I always thought instructors drove around in BMWs bought on the £50-60 per hour (plus ground instruction pay) which AOPA says they get (see latest issue of General Aviation, p.13).
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No no, you're all wrong, instructors obviously can't even count the fifty pound notes being stuffed into their sweaty mits. AOPA has just published a report comparing PPL training costs in various countries in Europe and it says instructor pay in the UK is £50-60 an hour (see this month's General Aviation p.13).
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When I was doing PPL work I was paid £15 retainer per day and £12.50 per flying hour. This did not go up in the 6 years I worked there (down South), but I got onto other stuff like CPL, FIC and IR which was paid a little better. What I find so inexplicable is that most students have no idea that you are paid so badly and when a private owner wants you to do a biennial or some IMC refresher with you they are more than happy to pay whatever you ask - I asked for £50 per hour recently and the lady owner said I was "too cheap" and that she charges £1200 per day as a consultant!! Perhaps it is time we valued ourselves as professionals and started charging ourselves at realistic rates - after all, look what you have to pay to the accountant, solicitor or even your physio....