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Old 18th July 2006 | 15:05
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I'm on 14 hours and haven't landed yet! Starting circuits next though so will have to do it then.

I guess every school is different - at mine, circuits are done at a different airfield, so I think landing is kept until then....

Or maybe I'm just really slow and stupid
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Old 18th July 2006 | 15:15
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Mike - really sorry for the delay in getting back to you - my acocunt was frozen for ages as I didn't receive any validation email (no I wasn't banned )

Yes, I do fly from Liverpool (LFS - I presume you are at Ravenair/CATS?)

You seem to be doing really well in your training - always a bonus to have a good instructor. I don't know whether you followed my diary or not, but there is some good stuff in there from all of the contributors, and you may be able to relate to it more as it is at Liverpool (you will most likely fly similar routes). For what it's worth, I landed the aircraft on my second lesson (I think) and taxiing wasn't talked about, I kind of just 'did it' and got the hang of it - it all fits into place slowly!

Well, I am in danger of starting another "My PPL" or "one to 45" here so I wont go on.
Oh no - don't do that - Just kidding - I think it would be a great idea, and there are plenty of people on here who will follow you and give you sound advice - it would be good to see your progress as you go along.

You are welcome to come flying with me any time (your instructor may not approve of you flying with another PPL just yet, and I am no expert (4.5 hours total) but your welcome to come with me and practice any time) - just go with what you feel is best...

Drop me a line sometime if you wanna meet up for a beer or ten:

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Best of luck!

Lee

Edit: FemaleW - I doub't that your stupid, but you will be suprised at how much you have taken in with regards to the landing, so when you come to 'do it' I am sure it will go smoother than you think - this is in comparison to landing the thing in your first couple of hours - you have what seems like a whole world of information/procedures to try and absorb into your brain!
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Old 18th July 2006 | 18:01
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solo

Took me 17,it's not a race
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Old 18th July 2006 | 19:14
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Female Wannabe

Things are slightly different to when I first learnt. I would say that most of my students went in to the circuit some time after 10 hours. The exercises we have to cover up to and including the circuit usually take that long. have no fears you will be landing with the best of them in a few hours time.

As was said its not a race and it's better to consolidate the early exercises before venturing into the circuit
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Old 18th July 2006 | 20:53
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Originally Posted by Flying Farmer
I would say that most of my students went in to the circuit some time after 10 hours.
That's probably about the same for me then. The last couple of lessons have been a combination of stalls and doing higher up circuits using a landmark as a pretend runway. This means I've been practising everything in the circuit apart from the actual landing.. so hopefully when it comes around I can concentrate on that and not be preoccupied with everything else
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Old 20th July 2006 | 21:48
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What I have actually found, is that Neil generally didn't tell me that I was going to taxi, take off or land.. he just let it happen. I suppose some of this might have been down to the fact that I mentioned to him what I asked you guys about in my opening thread. He must have had some confidence in me from the offset.

I asked him after lesson 2 about this and he explained that he already knew how to take off and land, so there wasn't much point in him doing either. I however, needed to learn, master and become confident in both so it makes more sense for me to do it.


After my last lesson, we discussed what the next lesson (which is tomorrow) will include.. that will be, turning in a climb and turning in a descent plus a brush up of last week, but as he said, I have already done much of both when climbing out and making a turn at 500ft to follow a set course to 1500ft to the training area and also turning onto final so it will be an easy lesson in which we may move onto another exercise.

I do feel that the way he tutors/mentors me, brings me along at a good pace. Don't get me wrong though, he is vey thorough and I feel very dissapointed if I make mistakes (whch I have)

Anyway, must go and sleep in readiness for my lesson tomorrow.

Many thanks

Mike (3 hours)
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Old 21st July 2006 | 00:04
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Originally Posted by mazzy1026
Mik

For what it's worth, I landed the aircraft on my second lesson (I think)
I think your instructor did

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Old 21st July 2006 | 06:31
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Originally Posted by Michael Jeffs
What I have actually found, is that Neil generally didn't tell me that I was going to taxi, take off or land.. he just let it happen. I suppose some of this might have been down to the fact that I mentioned to him what I asked you guys about in my opening thread. He must have had some confidence in me from the offset.
None of my instructors have pre-warned me about taxiing or taking off either. I think it works better if it's just thrown at you and you have to take control and get on with it. Obviously they talk you through it and assist where necessary.

I asked him after lesson 2 about this and he explained that he already knew how to take off and land, so there wasn't much point in him doing either. I however, needed to learn, master and become confident in both so it makes more sense for me to do it.
At my club this is usually applied to orbiting - we have to wait to land quite a bit so turning is taught just after straight and level.

Good luck with the next lesson Mike - climbing and descending turns aren't too hard
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Old 21st July 2006 | 08:14
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Good luck with your lesson today. Jee this brings back memories.
What you will find as you go through the course is that things are done in a logical order. No point in being an ace at landing if you can't fly straight and level. One lesson leads onto the next very well, and as I said Neil is a very patient and good instructor.

You will find that instructors will let you make certain mistakes in the hope that you recognise them and correct it. What ultimately an examiner is looking for is not that you are an undoubted ace of the skies, but that you can fly reasonably well, and more important than that make good safe decisions in flight, and that is probably the major point.
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Old 21st July 2006 | 08:18
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Originally Posted by Michael Jeffs
I asked him after lesson 2 about this and he explained that he already knew how to take off and land, so there wasn't much point in him doing either. I however, needed to learn, master and become confident in both so it makes more sense for me to do it.
Thats the best way I have ever heard it put!

I think your instructor did
Your probably right

Good luck Mike - keep up the honours
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Old 7th August 2006 | 09:40
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Michael
Not heard anything from you for a while. How's it going??
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