Instructor Rating in Spain
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Instructor Rating in Spain
Hi,
Am trying to get an Instructor Rating ASAP but alot of the schools are busy till about late Jan, My Question is if i did one in spain, how would that affect my job prospects here in the UK,
Thanks in advance
Goose.
Am trying to get an Instructor Rating ASAP but alot of the schools are busy till about late Jan, My Question is if i did one in spain, how would that affect my job prospects here in the UK,
Thanks in advance
Goose.
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When in Rome do as the Romans do. So if you want to instruct in the UK I'd suggest you do your Instructor rating locally. Preferably go to a school who may want your services and ask them to suggest with whom to do your course.
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Quite so, porridge.
Someone after an instructing job sent me a CV. Pretty well all his flying had been in the USA (PPL, CPL, JAR-FCL FI Rating) and he would therefore have had virtually no practical knowledge of UK airspace, weather, rules and procedures etc whatsoever.
He wasn't even offered an interview.
Someone after an instructing job sent me a CV. Pretty well all his flying had been in the USA (PPL, CPL, JAR-FCL FI Rating) and he would therefore have had virtually no practical knowledge of UK airspace, weather, rules and procedures etc whatsoever.
He wasn't even offered an interview.
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porridge,BEagle
Thanks for the reply, and point taken i do see what you mean , as for me i have done all my training in the uk,suppose just wanted to get the rating and try and secure some work before to long , schools are busy but i can wait thanks for the replies though.
Goose.
Thanks for the reply, and point taken i do see what you mean , as for me i have done all my training in the uk,suppose just wanted to get the rating and try and secure some work before to long , schools are busy but i can wait thanks for the replies though.
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NOT 3 WEEKS
it took me 1 month , 2 and a half weeks ground school full time, and then 1 and a half week for the flying and test with the examiner.
But that is only at one given school in spain, does not apply to all spanish schools
But that is only at one given school in spain, does not apply to all spanish schools
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Thanks Guys
I see its a mixed reaction as to the merits of either doing it here or in spain, am glad some off you that have done it in spain have gained employment back here, it does seem value for dosh and time, might just dip in and have it done with.
Thanks for the replies.
Goose.
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For those that did it in spain, any schools in particular you would recommend.
I see its a mixed reaction as to the merits of either doing it here or in spain, am glad some off you that have done it in spain have gained employment back here, it does seem value for dosh and time, might just dip in and have it done with.
Thanks for the replies.
Goose.
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For those that did it in spain, any schools in particular you would recommend.
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BEagle,
Spain is not the other side of the Atlantic. Your attitude to European pilots flying in the UK only make the case for quicker EASA and Single Sky movement.
Unfortunately our industry is full of protectionists like the ones who advertise pilot positions where anyone with the right to work in the EU can apply (as they are legally required to do) but all applicants must hold a currect UK driving licence! Not many Spanish nationals would be UK driving licence holders for example!
Do your rating where ever you like in Europe and you will get a job cause most places I have come across don't ask where you got your rating - just the few protectionisis have a problem.
Regards,
DFC
Spain is not the other side of the Atlantic. Your attitude to European pilots flying in the UK only make the case for quicker EASA and Single Sky movement.
Unfortunately our industry is full of protectionists like the ones who advertise pilot positions where anyone with the right to work in the EU can apply (as they are legally required to do) but all applicants must hold a currect UK driving licence! Not many Spanish nationals would be UK driving licence holders for example!
Do your rating where ever you like in Europe and you will get a job cause most places I have come across don't ask where you got your rating - just the few protectionisis have a problem.
Regards,
DFC
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
What's that supposed to mean?
Of the several CVs I've received from people wanting to instruct, the 'American' one I described above was the only one which didn't get an interview offer.
Another chap was due to come for aninterview, but failed to turn up and didn't even apologise. He asked again later; by then he'd had his chance.
Of the several CVs I've received from people wanting to instruct, the 'American' one I described above was the only one which didn't get an interview offer.
Another chap was due to come for aninterview, but failed to turn up and didn't even apologise. He asked again later; by then he'd had his chance.
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Beagle - didn't you send a reply saying "Have a nice day"
Sounds like you have a prejudicial attitude, why not at least see the guy to find out more (if he was qualified).
There is a lot of prejudice that is directed at those with similar coloured skin, but it is still racial prejudice in my book.
Sounds like you have a prejudicial attitude, why not at least see the guy to find out more (if he was qualified).
There is a lot of prejudice that is directed at those with similar coloured skin, but it is still racial prejudice in my book.
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
This was a CV from a British, not American, person. But he'd chosen to do virtually all his flying (from what I could work out from his CV) plus hours-building in the US.
PPL - some Floridian instant PPL place. Then a handful of hours in the UK (about 10....)
Hours pre-CPL - again, in the US.
CPL and FI rating - in the USA.
No thanks. Low hours and no real practical experience over here.
PPL - some Floridian instant PPL place. Then a handful of hours in the UK (about 10....)
Hours pre-CPL - again, in the US.
CPL and FI rating - in the USA.
No thanks. Low hours and no real practical experience over here.
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American rating
I can see BEagle's point of view
Most PPLs electing to learn in the UK would expect the person instructing to have substantial experience of the same.....
Given the choice I would do the same.......prefer someone with
UK experience
Most PPLs electing to learn in the UK would expect the person instructing to have substantial experience of the same.....
Given the choice I would do the same.......prefer someone with
UK experience
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Aerofan in LECU (cuatrovientos), i believe there are British instructors employed there now.
Better talk to them and do a search cause i know there are British pilots having done their FIC there, try to talk to them, so you'll have 1st hand info and more updated tham mine (2003).
In my opinion the course is good the price can't be beaten, the acft availability very good and you wont find better value for the amount of money.
They have a website with the lis of prices.
i did the 1st 10 hours on C150 Aerobat , the rest in a bonanza, including the test.
Another reason why i liked the school is that they do not ask you to pay all at the begining, and that believe me is uncommon
Good luck
Better talk to them and do a search cause i know there are British pilots having done their FIC there, try to talk to them, so you'll have 1st hand info and more updated tham mine (2003).
In my opinion the course is good the price can't be beaten, the acft availability very good and you wont find better value for the amount of money.
They have a website with the lis of prices.
i did the 1st 10 hours on C150 Aerobat , the rest in a bonanza, including the test.
Another reason why i liked the school is that they do not ask you to pay all at the begining, and that believe me is uncommon
Good luck
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Thanks LEVC
For anyone else interested the website is:
http://www.aerofanfto.com/home.html
Although, my reason for contacting them is because I want to convert my ICAO CPL ME-IR to the JAR-FCL.
I thought that Spain would do that but I got a reply from a different school that it requires the same amount of hours as getting the ratings themselves and you only get credited with 10hrs ?
Anyway, different thread topic...
Good luck to all.
Miss A.
For anyone else interested the website is:
http://www.aerofanfto.com/home.html
Although, my reason for contacting them is because I want to convert my ICAO CPL ME-IR to the JAR-FCL.
I thought that Spain would do that but I got a reply from a different school that it requires the same amount of hours as getting the ratings themselves and you only get credited with 10hrs ?
Anyway, different thread topic...
Good luck to all.
Miss A.