Go-around on new type
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Go-around on new type
When converting someone (a PPL, let's assume, rather than a student) to a new SEP type, at what point do you instructors ask the pilot to demonstrate a go-around? Or do you just wait for the pilot to execute a crap approach and decide for themselves? What if they do an hour of perfect circuits and never have to go around? - do you insist that they do one, or do you approve them to hire the new type without?
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When converting pilots onto the C172 with 40° flap - the school used to insist on a maximum weight (4 people) go around from full flap.
Quite an eye opener for people who are used to flying 152's, solo.
It was (and still is) a mandatory part of the checkout.
Quite an eye opener for people who are used to flying 152's, solo.
It was (and still is) a mandatory part of the checkout.
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Yes, it's a normal (and valuable) part of a conversion or prof check - the issues are performance, trim change and drills.
I normally say "go around go around go around" at the start of the flair (make sure they have full flap).
I normally say "go around go around go around" at the start of the flair (make sure they have full flap).
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FFF - agree entirely - used to deliberately manufacture that (when training out of Liverpool) by asking Manchester ATC if we could do a low approach and go around "to show the student what the diversion loks like at night". Doing the go around meant no landing fees - and was conducted when EGCC was quiet from a traffic point of view.
With Manchester being a fairly scary place for a relative low hour PPL, even in daylight, I thought it wise to stress to them that diversions are better than accidents if the need arises.
Night diversions, from an airfield that's open H24, can be surprisingly awkward if done at the wrong part of the night.
Liverpool diversions, excluding Manchester, were limited to (starting North-ish), Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, East Midlands, Birmingham, RAF Valley, Dublin, Belfast and Prestwick.
Now that could be fun if getting back to Liverpool with only 45 minutes of fuel remaining.
With Manchester being a fairly scary place for a relative low hour PPL, even in daylight, I thought it wise to stress to them that diversions are better than accidents if the need arises.
Night diversions, from an airfield that's open H24, can be surprisingly awkward if done at the wrong part of the night.
Liverpool diversions, excluding Manchester, were limited to (starting North-ish), Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, East Midlands, Birmingham, RAF Valley, Dublin, Belfast and Prestwick.
Now that could be fun if getting back to Liverpool with only 45 minutes of fuel remaining.
