Max hours a month question
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But has it/will it ever come up in interview with some juicy airline job...?
"Well Yes - safety is my first priority and I have never had an accident".
"Hmmm - so how do think it was particularly safe to fly 120hrs a month for 3 months running?"
"Errrr, flounder flounder, squirm make embarrassed noises etc"
WWW
"Well Yes - safety is my first priority and I have never had an accident".
"Hmmm - so how do think it was particularly safe to fly 120hrs a month for 3 months running?"
"Errrr, flounder flounder, squirm make embarrassed noises etc"
WWW
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www.
we live in the real world..
Either work or get replaced with those who will,.
Put yourself in my shoes. First ever flying job, trying to get the hours for the golden handshake into the airlines. I didn't have the luxury of people queuing up to give me a job with 250 hrs..
I'm not bragging or saying it's right, I was keeping my job..
try and be less naive
PS .I have an Airline job
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we live in the real world..
Either work or get replaced with those who will,.
Put yourself in my shoes. First ever flying job, trying to get the hours for the golden handshake into the airlines. I didn't have the luxury of people queuing up to give me a job with 250 hrs..
I'm not bragging or saying it's right, I was keeping my job..
try and be less naive
PS .I have an Airline job
[This message has been edited by matthew (edited 30 June 1999).]
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matthew, from what I understand, Mr Welshman doesn't need to put up with the external pressure of having to do extra hours as he could probably work at several schools because he has built himself a reputation for being a thoroughly professional bloke. I see this thread as being evidence of this. Not only is his safety and that of the pupil's put in jeopardy if he is tired but also the quality of the teaching.
I wonder whether you gave value for money to your pupils during that period you crammed 360 hours in over 3 months, or were you just too tired to explain the same thing to a struggling pupil for the third time!!??
And I think you'll find that WWW is far from naive....
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I wonder whether you gave value for money to your pupils during that period you crammed 360 hours in over 3 months, or were you just too tired to explain the same thing to a struggling pupil for the third time!!??
And I think you'll find that WWW is far from naive....
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Point number 1. If you would care to read my note, I did not fly 360 hrs in three months, I said on one of those months I flew 120 hrs.
2. I raised the point to explain that in my experience, I had flown over 100 hrs in a month with no comment from the CAA, therefore answering the original question.
3. I also said that it was, in my opinion, far from ideal the situation some instructors are put in with regard to overworking. I did not raise the point as a boast, quite the opposite in fact, I agree with everything mentioned so far, in that there is the liklehood, over a period of time, that flight safety and standard of instruction may be degraded.
4. Please refrain from offering anymore of your unwanted opinions on my own past as an instructor, and concentrate on the original question, the point of which I have already said I agree with.
NB. We would all love to live in the idealistic world to which you seem to be refering, however, we don't.
2. I raised the point to explain that in my experience, I had flown over 100 hrs in a month with no comment from the CAA, therefore answering the original question.
3. I also said that it was, in my opinion, far from ideal the situation some instructors are put in with regard to overworking. I did not raise the point as a boast, quite the opposite in fact, I agree with everything mentioned so far, in that there is the liklehood, over a period of time, that flight safety and standard of instruction may be degraded.
4. Please refrain from offering anymore of your unwanted opinions on my own past as an instructor, and concentrate on the original question, the point of which I have already said I agree with.
NB. We would all love to live in the idealistic world to which you seem to be refering, however, we don't.
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Right no hang on lets all keep our knickers untwisted here.
Thanks for coming to my defence flysundun.
Matthew - I hear what you are saying and agree with you in general. However I believe that times are changing due t the now cronic shortage of instructors (today a colleague announced he's virtually got into OATS for example). If I, and my fellow instructors draw a line in the sand to management then they are in no position to argue. In the past we probably would have been booted out the door but with nobody applying to take our place that isn't an option any more.
Now - about getting a J31 job at Manchester...
WWW
ps did 7.7hrs today in a Traumahawk - tomorrow is going to be a very quiet day, zzz...
Thanks for coming to my defence flysundun.
Matthew - I hear what you are saying and agree with you in general. However I believe that times are changing due t the now cronic shortage of instructors (today a colleague announced he's virtually got into OATS for example). If I, and my fellow instructors draw a line in the sand to management then they are in no position to argue. In the past we probably would have been booted out the door but with nobody applying to take our place that isn't an option any more.
Now - about getting a J31 job at Manchester...
WWWps did 7.7hrs today in a Traumahawk - tomorrow is going to be a very quiet day, zzz...
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Point taken as well WWW...
On a happier note
If and when you gain the experience required, if you don't already have it,and you do decide to look into flying an icecream 41, there is a good chance of recruitment in BRAL. The man to speak to is Capt Dennis Kilgarif, J41 Fleet Manager
,(01624) 826 000 .
Happy camping,
cheers
Matt........
On a happier note
If and when you gain the experience required, if you don't already have it,and you do decide to look into flying an icecream 41, there is a good chance of recruitment in BRAL. The man to speak to is Capt Dennis Kilgarif, J41 Fleet Manager
,(01624) 826 000 .
Happy camping,
cheers
Matt........
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I would suggest being very careful if you are doing in excess of the legal hours as stipulated by the CAA. It is all fine to sweep it under the wing until an "incident" or worse occurs. The CAA look at your log book and bingo, find that you have gone over your maximum hours. It is ALWAYS the pilots responsibility to fly within the legal requirements. I believe saying you did not know about them is no defence in law. Even though I work for an airline and they keep track of our hours worked and flown, there are cock ups on a regular occurence, causing the possibility of flying/ working illegally. You cannot tell the CAA that it was their responsibility. It is yours and yours only...so all I will say is be very careful. The CAA have queried hours in the past, and I believe someone lost their licence over it - is it worth the risk? Maybe.
