Moving from instructing into charter in Oz
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To CFI.. You said - "Resumes addressed to Dear Sir, don't get very far with me." Did I read that correctly or are you merely playing heavy handed humourist?
One presumes that the hapless applicant seeking a job at your organization would not know if you were a Miss, Mrs, MZZ, or even a Madame. Perhaps you are even prefer the imposing title Dear Captain? Many GA managers love that title and wear 4 bars to prove it.
Come of the grass CFI. The poor sod that is forced to look for a job with you has probably written a hundred Dear Sir letters. So he took a punt this time and got the gender wrong. Big deal. Is that so important to your ego that you would trash his application? I can't believe this.
One presumes that the hapless applicant seeking a job at your organization would not know if you were a Miss, Mrs, MZZ, or even a Madame. Perhaps you are even prefer the imposing title Dear Captain? Many GA managers love that title and wear 4 bars to prove it.
Come of the grass CFI. The poor sod that is forced to look for a job with you has probably written a hundred Dear Sir letters. So he took a punt this time and got the gender wrong. Big deal. Is that so important to your ego that you would trash his application? I can't believe this.
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My point was this, that it is not very difficult, and it is courteous, to at least find out the name, and therefore the gender, of the CP that you are applying to. Being part of a mail-shot of "Dear Sir's" isn't as impressive as getting a resume from someone who has done the research into your company, and at least knows what sort of aircraft you operate and what sort of ops you are involved in.
For example, if you get to talk to the CP and they say "Why do you want to work for our company?" which is better.
" I just want a job with any company" or
"Because I would like to specialise in the areas you specialise in such as....and I like the way you run your operations such as...."
When looking for a job in any competitive industry, an applicant needs to have an edge over the others. Most of us will have a few people that we already know and have seen doing good work, in mind for the next position that comes up. So be one of those people!
If a hapless poor-sod applicant has to send a hundred letters, then they have missed an important part of their training, that in this and many other industries, it is the network of people you have got to know so far, and the impression that you have made on those people, that really counts.
For example, if you get to talk to the CP and they say "Why do you want to work for our company?" which is better.
" I just want a job with any company" or
"Because I would like to specialise in the areas you specialise in such as....and I like the way you run your operations such as...."
When looking for a job in any competitive industry, an applicant needs to have an edge over the others. Most of us will have a few people that we already know and have seen doing good work, in mind for the next position that comes up. So be one of those people!
If a hapless poor-sod applicant has to send a hundred letters, then they have missed an important part of their training, that in this and many other industries, it is the network of people you have got to know so far, and the impression that you have made on those people, that really counts.
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Yeah OK. But if our poor sod is writing to Qantas, Ansett, National Jet, Virgin etc, surely Dear Sir is acceptable? And if the airlines find Dear Sir as acceptable, then perhaps you should too. After all, if our PS has to make all these discreet phone calls to the switchboards of these operators, merely to obtain the gender of the Chief Honcho to whom to write, then he may be regarded as a nutter.
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Maybe, but this thread is about GA and I have endeavoured to answer the question from a GA employer's point of view.
Even for the airlines it would still be courteous to take the time to find out the name of the person to contact if you really want to work for them.
Even for the airlines it would still be courteous to take the time to find out the name of the person to contact if you really want to work for them.
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It isn't difficult, all you do is ask "to whom do I address my application to"? They'll tell you. They'll even switch you to the person and you can talk to them. Easy. Doesn't take too long and it costs about a $1. If you live in WA it's even cheaper as you call before 7am and it is 9 or 10am on the east coast. That's what I used to do (and still do but now I have to pay full STD rates). Another option is to ring the local agent for the said airline, ask the questions, you'll get put on hold for a tick while they ask (via the internal network). I've done that one too.
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what's wrong with " Dear Sir or Madam"...as comes up on "WORD" when writing a letter?
And if you do send out resumes, FOR GOD'S SAKE FOLLOW THEM UP!
even if it is just a phone call asking if they received it, but don't be pushy.
Anyone ever noticed how many pilots put "enjoy bushwalking " on their resumes?
And if you do send out resumes, FOR GOD'S SAKE FOLLOW THEM UP!
even if it is just a phone call asking if they received it, but don't be pushy.
Anyone ever noticed how many pilots put "enjoy bushwalking " on their resumes?
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CLK,is you are going to give charter a go I suggest the following:
Be prepared to work; Bring lots of commonsense; Be professional; Don't bore everyone with tails of "at Bla Bla Bla we used to...." ; Although I remember thinking I was a king when I got a couple of thousand hours, accept that it is only a drop in the bucket so most important of all, listen and be prepared to learn. Then it will be a breeze.
Good Luck.
Be prepared to work; Bring lots of commonsense; Be professional; Don't bore everyone with tails of "at Bla Bla Bla we used to...." ; Although I remember thinking I was a king when I got a couple of thousand hours, accept that it is only a drop in the bucket so most important of all, listen and be prepared to learn. Then it will be a breeze.
Good Luck.




