JAR FCL PPL Syllabus?
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JAR FCL PPL Syllabus?
Question.
Is there a JAA, or CAA, PPL flight training syllabus - that actually complies with the requirements of the mandated training?
The only syllabus I am aware of is published by AOPA - and clearly says that the student must complete 45 hours of daylight training and an extra five hours if a night qualification is required.
It BELIEVE it also says that the 45 hours (AND optional dark) must be completed before skill test.
This appears to be in contradiction with the JAR FCL 1 - as mentioned so many times on these hallowed pages.
Would I be right in thinking that any school which says in its training and/or operations manual that the AOPA syllabus has been adopted by them (and "training approval" issued on the basis of that statement)but which subsequently trains in accordance with FCL 1 would be in breach of its "approval notice"?
Also curious to know why the CAA like the syllabus so much - when these same hallowed pages have slagged AOPA so vehemently in the past (and present). At least they tried.
Is there a CAA published syllabus?
Is there a JAA, or CAA, PPL flight training syllabus - that actually complies with the requirements of the mandated training?
The only syllabus I am aware of is published by AOPA - and clearly says that the student must complete 45 hours of daylight training and an extra five hours if a night qualification is required.
It BELIEVE it also says that the 45 hours (AND optional dark) must be completed before skill test.
This appears to be in contradiction with the JAR FCL 1 - as mentioned so many times on these hallowed pages.
Would I be right in thinking that any school which says in its training and/or operations manual that the AOPA syllabus has been adopted by them (and "training approval" issued on the basis of that statement)but which subsequently trains in accordance with FCL 1 would be in breach of its "approval notice"?
Also curious to know why the CAA like the syllabus so much - when these same hallowed pages have slagged AOPA so vehemently in the past (and present). At least they tried.
Is there a CAA published syllabus?
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A number of misconceptions here, I feel.
"Is there a JAA, or CAA, PPL flight training syllabus - that actually complies with the requirements of the mandated training?" - No, other than the requirements stated in JAR-FCL 1.120 in respect of licence issue, JAR-FCL 1.125 in respect of the Training Course and Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 1.125 in respect of the exercises to be covered.
"The only syllabus I am aware of is published by AOPA - and clearly says that the student must complete 45 hours of daylight training and an extra five hours if a night qualification is required.
It BELIEVE it also says that the 45 hours (AND optional dark) must be completed before skill test.
This appears to be in contradiction with the JAR FCL 1 - as mentioned so many times on these hallowed pages." - No it isn't, it is fully compliant with those requirements.
"Would I be right in thinking that any school which says in its training and/or operations manual that the AOPA syllabus has been adopted by them (and "training approval" issued on the basis of that statement)but which subsequently trains in accordance with FCL 1 would be in breach of its "approval notice"?" - No you wouldn't. There is no requirement under JAR-FCL 1 for an organisation to be approved by the National Aviation Authority, it merely has to register its intention to provide such training. Neither is there any requirement under JAR-FCL 1 for a Registered Facility even to have a Training and/or Operations Manual.
"Also curious to know why the CAA like the syllabus so much - when these same hallowed pages have slagged AOPA so vehemently in the past (and present). At least they tried." - The CAA have no say in the design of the PPL syllabus, it is entirely up to the Registered Facility to decide which syllabus it will use. The CAA do not even have the means of knowing what syllabus Registered Facilities are using, other than what is in the logbook of an applicant for a PPL.
"Is there a CAA published syllabus?" - No.
"Is there a JAA, or CAA, PPL flight training syllabus - that actually complies with the requirements of the mandated training?" - No, other than the requirements stated in JAR-FCL 1.120 in respect of licence issue, JAR-FCL 1.125 in respect of the Training Course and Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 1.125 in respect of the exercises to be covered.
"The only syllabus I am aware of is published by AOPA - and clearly says that the student must complete 45 hours of daylight training and an extra five hours if a night qualification is required.
It BELIEVE it also says that the 45 hours (AND optional dark) must be completed before skill test.
This appears to be in contradiction with the JAR FCL 1 - as mentioned so many times on these hallowed pages." - No it isn't, it is fully compliant with those requirements.
"Would I be right in thinking that any school which says in its training and/or operations manual that the AOPA syllabus has been adopted by them (and "training approval" issued on the basis of that statement)but which subsequently trains in accordance with FCL 1 would be in breach of its "approval notice"?" - No you wouldn't. There is no requirement under JAR-FCL 1 for an organisation to be approved by the National Aviation Authority, it merely has to register its intention to provide such training. Neither is there any requirement under JAR-FCL 1 for a Registered Facility even to have a Training and/or Operations Manual.
"Also curious to know why the CAA like the syllabus so much - when these same hallowed pages have slagged AOPA so vehemently in the past (and present). At least they tried." - The CAA have no say in the design of the PPL syllabus, it is entirely up to the Registered Facility to decide which syllabus it will use. The CAA do not even have the means of knowing what syllabus Registered Facilities are using, other than what is in the logbook of an applicant for a PPL.
"Is there a CAA published syllabus?" - No.
