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Old 26th May 2001 | 20:31
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I have just been offered a part-time position instructing students towards the JAR Modular CPL GFT test.(I have previously been a professional Flight Instructor but now fly for an airline.

The hourly flight pay rate that the school is quouting is £35.00.

Does anybody know if this is a fair rate or not with regard to most professional flight schools.

Any feed back would be most greatly received.

I spent to long "bending over" in GA in my youth and don,t need the same experience again.
 
Old 27th May 2001 | 03:42
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Well, it's exactly 5.833 x what I get per hour for instructing ... sounds pretty reasonable to me.
 
Old 27th May 2001 | 05:17
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If you have sufficient time off from an airline to do part-time CPL training at £35 per hour, I guess that you must be a long-haul pilot. Further, that you are not 'in your youth'.
Are your employers aware that you will be undertaking commercial work for an FTO? I only say this because some airlines are very tetchy at the fatigue implications (even on aircraft less than 1.7T) of doing such part-time work. However, others are more happy - as, no doubt, is the Inland Revenue!

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Old 27th May 2001 | 15:07
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Thats about right for part time ad hoc. BAE Systems used to pay me around £60 per hr for doing that full time on Approved ab initio for the airlines et al.

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Old 28th May 2001 | 01:36
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£60 an hour?????????? is that standard? You must have had some good pictures of the CFI!

I nearly split my tea when I read that. that's 6x what I get. Me thinks there may be discussion come Monday morning.
 
Old 30th May 2001 | 01:22
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Helicopter instruction by a qualified commercial instructor was at £40+ over five years ago. The rate now I am told is less than half because companies can use instructors when only PPL qualified.
I understand that Fixed wing schools have always been useing some only PPL qualified instructors, hence the low rates.

Make it happen!
 
Old 30th May 2001 | 02:17
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Seems to be a bit of confusion here between commercial instruction and PPL instruction does there not?

If a school can only charge an additional £10-£15 for PPL instruction over wet hire rate, then thats all thats left for the poor instructor(less a few quid for overheads). Commercial insruction however attracts an additional £70 over wet hire rate leaving just a bit more in the pot for instructors with some seriously expensive add -ons to their FI rating.

There seems to be a severe shortage of commercial instructors right now and students will pay what they have to pay to get through their CPL and FIC...having started, .. they have to finish!!

North by any chance girlsblouse???

 
Old 30th May 2001 | 18:08
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That hourly figure is a rather quick calc whereby I divided my annual net salalry by the number of logged hours that year.

Came out at £60per hr.

And 25% of that was on the ground taxi-ing in and out... actual airborne rate... more than I get now airborne anyway

And we had an outside swimming pool at work. And a beer machine. Looking back I don't know why I left!

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