Different types of training Organisations
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Different types of training Organisations
Dear all
Can anyone enlighten me as to the differences between a (?RTF) Registered Training facility & a (?FTO) Flight training organisation.
From an instructors and students standpoint.
Does one cost more to set up?
Does one need more accomodation for briefing
Is there a minimum number of briefing rooms?
Etc.
Thanks
Can anyone enlighten me as to the differences between a (?RTF) Registered Training facility & a (?FTO) Flight training organisation.
From an instructors and students standpoint.
Does one cost more to set up?
Does one need more accomodation for briefing
Is there a minimum number of briefing rooms?
Etc.
Thanks
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RTF - Registered training facility - provides training for Private Pilot Licence and Night Qualification (and in the UK, IMC Rating).
As the name implies the only requirement is to register. Applications to register are free and will not be rufesed unless the authority considers that the propsed facility will be unsafe or unable to complete the required trainng.
FTO - Flight Training Organisation - Must be approved to complete various courses - Multi Engine Training, Instrument Rating Training, Commercial Pilot training and/or ground training. There is a sizeable fee for the approval process which must be renewed on a regular basis. The requirements are clear with regard to accomodation, facilities, aircraft, operations and training manuals as well as appointment of staff, conduct of courses and assessment of students.
If an FTO wants to also complete PPL training, it will register as an RTF for that purpose.
Thus from a student's point of view, there should be little if any obvious difference. Most importantly, the authorities make no comment available as the the financial viability of any FTO and thus if a student pays up-front, for a PPL course, there is no extra protection in going to an FTO as opposed to a simple RTF.
From an instructor's point of view, what they can teach is determined by their ratings and experience. Thus a FI(R) working for an RTF will teach the exact same parts of the PPL course as an FI(R) teaching at an FTO. However, as the FI at an FTO gains ratings, they can with certain experience qualify for teaching of the CPL flying phase or with a multi engine instructor rating can teach multi engine ratings and so on.
Thus overall from an instructor's point of view, the teaching will be the same but progression can be easier if the organisation is an FTO.
Hope that answers your questions.
Regards,
DFC
As the name implies the only requirement is to register. Applications to register are free and will not be rufesed unless the authority considers that the propsed facility will be unsafe or unable to complete the required trainng.
FTO - Flight Training Organisation - Must be approved to complete various courses - Multi Engine Training, Instrument Rating Training, Commercial Pilot training and/or ground training. There is a sizeable fee for the approval process which must be renewed on a regular basis. The requirements are clear with regard to accomodation, facilities, aircraft, operations and training manuals as well as appointment of staff, conduct of courses and assessment of students.
If an FTO wants to also complete PPL training, it will register as an RTF for that purpose.
Thus from a student's point of view, there should be little if any obvious difference. Most importantly, the authorities make no comment available as the the financial viability of any FTO and thus if a student pays up-front, for a PPL course, there is no extra protection in going to an FTO as opposed to a simple RTF.
From an instructor's point of view, what they can teach is determined by their ratings and experience. Thus a FI(R) working for an RTF will teach the exact same parts of the PPL course as an FI(R) teaching at an FTO. However, as the FI at an FTO gains ratings, they can with certain experience qualify for teaching of the CPL flying phase or with a multi engine instructor rating can teach multi engine ratings and so on.
Thus overall from an instructor's point of view, the teaching will be the same but progression can be easier if the organisation is an FTO.
Hope that answers your questions.
Regards,
DFC
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From: Up north
Thanks DFC
Another one for you
Can you instruct for a NEW rating, specifically an IMC on a (private C.o.A) group aircraft. Now the CAA have referred me to an AIC for this one which was differcult to interpret in the finer sense. After some pressure & deliberation they eventually put their answer in writing.
The general idea was that for a NEW rating the answer is No.
This was whether or not I was a member of the group (I was at the time) and even if no money exchanged hands.
The CFI says you can and also charges for the instruction.
Any advice or wisdom.
Another one for you
Can you instruct for a NEW rating, specifically an IMC on a (private C.o.A) group aircraft. Now the CAA have referred me to an AIC for this one which was differcult to interpret in the finer sense. After some pressure & deliberation they eventually put their answer in writing.
The general idea was that for a NEW rating the answer is No.
This was whether or not I was a member of the group (I was at the time) and even if no money exchanged hands.
The CFI says you can and also charges for the instruction.
Any advice or wisdom.
