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Which shift pattern would you like?

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Old 2nd Sep 2002, 22:15
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Cool Which shift pattern would you like?

The ezy 12 crewing post got me thinking about my situation. i.e. 8.5 hrs 6 days on, 3 off. Some in our office want to go to 12hrs 4/4 others again want to go back to 8hrs -5 days on, 2 off. What are the pros and cons.
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In my oh-so-humble opinion, 12 hr 4 on 4 off is vastly preferable
to me, having tried the 6 on 3 off rosta. We adopted the Lufthansa style-rosta for about a year (Up until last years round of redundancies) and, apart from the drop in shift pay, I just seemed to be constantly at work. 2E 2L and 2N, 1 rest day 2 off and then back again. Not much scope for o/t, unless you really wanted to spend every minute at Donington Hall (Nice though it is..!!)
12hr shift pay is the big plus for us again and of course the other bonus is that you only have to take 4 days leave to get 12 days off !
Ok, some may balk at the thought of spending 12 hrs at work, but the pros outweigh the cons for me !
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Now 12 hrs on the slot desk ????.....I'll reserve judgement on that, thank you Bob !
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4 days off.....................!

CI300,

When was the last time you ever worked 8.5 hrs?

If you worked 12 hour shifts you would get a whole 4 days drinking Guinness!!

Oh........yes now I'm with you now!!

Yep........12 hours for me too, sounds good.

Must be your round?
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what about 12hr shifts as follows:

2 days + 2 nights then 5 off
2 days + 3 nights then 4 off
3 days + 2 nights then 5 off

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Cool

I currently work the 8hr day, well it's actually 9hrs when you count
the lunch break you "don't get" seems to be the norm across ops/crewing jobs. My last job was crew control on a 2days 2nights
4 off and while it's great having the weekends off I do miss shift work, because of the lve, I mean on shift you take 4 days lve and effectively you nearly have 2 weeks off. I take 4 days lve now and I don't even get 1 week off. 4 on 4 off would be my choice.
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Wink

V9 I’m with you guaranteed 2 weekends off a month very easy to plan your life around...
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paddy yep, but all I need now is a job that has A roster..... Anyone ??????
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got to be 12 hours, 4 on 4 off for me!
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shifts

ive done various shifts over the years both in the raf and civvy st. one big prob with 12 hour shifts is it turns in to a v long day, up at o god oo back late evening, driving home in morning fighting to stay awake. one statistic i was given was that working shifts takes 10 years off you life! now i do 9-5 monday to friday, the only problem is ive got to do things like mots and such at weekends, but at least i get to see pne play!! im actually suprised that the health and safety people allow 12hour shifts.
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Currently doing 1800Z-0600Z, 4 days a week.

Suits me down to the ground.

Finish 7am Friday morn, back in 7pm Monday eve........
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Old 18th Sep 2002, 21:12
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Red face

In my old job I worked on 4 (2xD / 2xN) and loved it..

In my current role I have lost night shifts (horay) but do 8.0hrs 4 on 2 off (2xL's / 2xE's) in return!!!!...
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blackbox where have you been? Only 4 posts You certainly enjoyed those nights with a glorious crewing blonde who shall remain nameless.......but she was luuuuurrrrrrvvvvvllllllyyyyy
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aye
i two have the delight for 2d 2n 4 off....
would not swop it for anything....
anyway when you go shopping on a monday morning the shops are empty.... bliss
 
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Having worked 6/3 type rosters that usually meant 7 days on to cover overtime, I moved companies to a 4/4 2d 2n 4 off roster, 12 hour shifts. Less wearing on the nerves/car/wallet!
Gotta be the best!
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Old 29th Sep 2002, 18:54
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Heard that next year airlines may be included in new European legislation which would mean it will no longer be possible to work longer than an eight hour shift! Anyone else know more?
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Ok, so am no longer in the industry anymore - but still like to keep an interest. I've got to say that the 4 on 4 off is imho the best shift. I've done some bizarre and very irregular shifts in my first ops job, but then again it was for a bizarre and irregular operated company I then moved to Chippy Fryer, where I did lates and earlys, 4 on 2 off the only down point being we did lates to earlys, and that mucked up the sleep pattern a tad.:o My final ops role was with Virgin, and that's where I worked the 2days 2nights (12hours) followed by 4 days off..... By far the best shift pattern, had loads of time off and still earnt a decent wage Now starting with MET Police (training commences in Januray 2003), their shift patterns keep changing all the time, but atleast i've had experience of similar patterns, and can hopefully contend with anything they throw at me
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Old 24th Oct 2002, 22:56
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Yeah... 4 on 4 off is the best, is hard but it is well off.
We have ours to 8 hours, it just getting worst and worst..
We have no pattern at all, don't know how to plan my holiday...just go with the flow...I guess..
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Old 31st Oct 2002, 21:46
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Oh well,
I will just chip in the one I work and believe me, it is comfortable;
NN O LL EE OOO

N-Night 2100-0700
O-Off
L-1300-2100
E-0700-1400

With the overlap on the last early you can acctually get off at 1300, that give you a full afternoon off, then 3 days Off, and you start at 2100 on the fourth day.
Not at all bad considering.

Cheers
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Old 20th Nov 2002, 08:02
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Ladies and Gentlemen,

Do we have nothing better to talk about than what shift's we would like to work?

Come on, I'm sure that between us we can come up with some good threads!

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Old 20th Nov 2002, 10:22
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AOG007,

Well come on then start an interesting thread !!!! Like er, how many different types of Russian built aircraft can you see on the ramp today.

Yesterday, I saw Tu134, 154, AN12, IL18, IL86, Yakolav 40. Most of them belonging to mystery operators who only fly at night !!!

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