View Poll Results: Which way would you go????
8.0 hrs. 5 on / 2 off
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8.5 hrs. 6 on / 3 off
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5.36%
12 hrs. 4 on / 4 off
53
94.64%
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Which shift pattern would you like?
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European Working Directive to come in to ground transport workers sometime in 2003. I believe this includes:
Max 10 hr shifts.
Min 10 hours between shifts
Can work no more than 6 consec days.
This applies to rostered shifts only and not any O/T.
We applied this last year and work various 8 / 10 hrs shifts on 4on 2 off basis. Got initial complaints but everyone alot brighter which means a safer working enviorment.
Can't beat 2D2N 4OFF...basically work two days, get inconvience for two nights then 4 days on golf course! Thanks Europe...for nothing?
Brgds
Max 10 hr shifts.
Min 10 hours between shifts
Can work no more than 6 consec days.
This applies to rostered shifts only and not any O/T.
We applied this last year and work various 8 / 10 hrs shifts on 4on 2 off basis. Got initial complaints but everyone alot brighter which means a safer working enviorment.
Can't beat 2D2N 4OFF...basically work two days, get inconvience for two nights then 4 days on golf course! Thanks Europe...for nothing?
Brgds
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Did hear that you could get round the European Directive by simply signing a waiver when putting pen to paper on your T&C's.
Not sure if it's true.
The only other way is to work 10 hours and then get the extra 2 as overtime. now what a shame that would be!
4 on 4 off it has to be.
Not sure if it's true.
The only other way is to work 10 hours and then get the extra 2 as overtime. now what a shame that would be!
4 on 4 off it has to be.
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Now It's Slightly More Interesting!
You splitter
I also was aware of this possiblity, but can anyone in an HR position, clarify the exact standing of companies who are about to be hit with this new legislation, and comfirm if the waiver is allowed?
AOG007
You splitter
I also was aware of this possiblity, but can anyone in an HR position, clarify the exact standing of companies who are about to be hit with this new legislation, and comfirm if the waiver is allowed?
AOG007
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I am currently working at a US based airline, Continental Micronesia, flying solely scheduled international ops. US FAR 121 limits us to a max scheduled workday of 10 hours, with 8 hrs rest rqd before returning to work. There are 5 of us, with 1 person on duty 24/7/365. We work day 0600-1400L, swing 1400-2200L and graveyard shifts 2200-0600L on the following rotation-
4 graveyard shifts with 2 days off, 4 swing shifts with 2 days off and 4 day shifts with 4 days off. This was the shift schedule for the wide-body desk at Hawaiian Airlines when our Director worked there.
If you work in the US at a FAR 121 Supplemental airline, primarily freight operations but also charter pax ops, the 10 hour limitation does not apply. At a previous employer who operated under 121 Supplemental, our initial sked was 4 on 3 off 3 on 4 off with 12 hour shifts. As we did very little work on the week-ends, I was eventually able to get my coworkers to go 7 on 7 off. By US work rules, we did not get paid ot unless we worked extra shifts for vacation, sick call, etc.
At another previous employer, World Airways, we worked 4 on 4 off 8 hour days under our contract. We had 1 person for each of 3 shifts and a vac/relief person, on each side of the week.
4 graveyard shifts with 2 days off, 4 swing shifts with 2 days off and 4 day shifts with 4 days off. This was the shift schedule for the wide-body desk at Hawaiian Airlines when our Director worked there.
If you work in the US at a FAR 121 Supplemental airline, primarily freight operations but also charter pax ops, the 10 hour limitation does not apply. At a previous employer who operated under 121 Supplemental, our initial sked was 4 on 3 off 3 on 4 off with 12 hour shifts. As we did very little work on the week-ends, I was eventually able to get my coworkers to go 7 on 7 off. By US work rules, we did not get paid ot unless we worked extra shifts for vacation, sick call, etc.
At another previous employer, World Airways, we worked 4 on 4 off 8 hour days under our contract. We had 1 person for each of 3 shifts and a vac/relief person, on each side of the week.
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Anyone know a web link to get the right information? I work now for another transport sector and my shift patterns are cr@p and I'm sure are not legal. Any help is appreciated. Cheers
