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I want to work in ground ops

Old 21st Jun 2011, 15:25
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Angel I want to work in ground ops

Hi all
Im 17 and hoping to go to Hudersfield University next year to study 'Air Transport and Logistics Managment' I was just wondering if this was the right decision to make as in the end i do hope to become a pilot. My monthly wages goes towards flying lessons or should i say one flying lesson

What are the different job roles on the ground in operations etc ect

P.s sorry if this has been said before.

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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 17:57
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Hmmmm!

If you want to become a pilot, perhaps you need to work on your English. Im is usually spelt as I'm with an apostrephe. Hudersfield University has I believe been traditionally been spelt Huddersfield in the main!

I note that you sign off with Adios.. Are you Spanish perhaps?

Perhaps, some attention to detail is called for?

Good Luck!
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 18:37
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Angel oops

Sorry about that! Next time I will check my posts for spelling errors.
And no, I'm not Spanish, im totally British

Thanks!

P.S Do you have a lot of time on your hands?As you are picking out spelling mistakes


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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 18:49
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<<apostrephe>>

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!

HPSC... I think you need to mug up on your English as you are coming across quite badly. Always good to write properly when applying for a job.

Good luck.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 18:58
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Oh for God's sake cut the lad some slack! He's 17 and has a lot to learn, you're how old?

Back to the original request. I work in ground ops but have been in aviation both military and civil for nearly 30 years. In my opinion I would sugggest that if you want to be a pilot conentrate your efforts on that and fund your training by working in an avaition related discipline. Flight ops assistant for a GA operator would be an excellent start. Doing this would expose you to a host of ground ops disciplines that will stand you in good stead for your future career as a pilot while also providing the readies for the training. If you live nearer to a large airport then get a seasonal job in ramp or dispatch.

If you really want to go to university I would strongly recommend you aim to get yourself a good business degree. A lot of these aviation related degrees are pretty useless if I am to be frank; all the CEO's I've worked for have come from a variety of backgrounds, none of which are aviation specific but all are accountants. But remember, a tirtiary education is expensive so unless you can afford that and training to ATPL I suggest you have a long hard chat with your parents and also see what else falls out from this thread.

I wish you the best of luck in your ambitions and ignore these anal muppets.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 20:04
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Ok guys, calm down! Stop nit picking

Thanks for the infomation L-H, nice to see someone actually posts a reply that answers my question. What sort of qualifications does a flight ops assistant require ?

I am able to get a student loan for university, I have to start repaying the loan once im earning over 21,000, if I never earn over that amount I wont have to pay back anything The loans get cancelled after 30 years even if you are still repaying them. So it wont eat up too much money, its just that going to uni for 3-4 will delay my flying even further!

Thanks, don't worry I will ignore them
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Old 24th Jun 2011, 18:04
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<<Oh for God's sake cut the lad some slack! He's 17 and has a lot to learn, you're how old?>>

An utterly stupid remark, IMHO. I'm 66 but at 17 I was a Civil Service clerk and could write and spell accurately. Take a look at some of the postings on here; it's abundantly obvious that people are leaving school unable to express themselves well enough to impress potential empoyers.

I want the guy to achieve his ambition, but he has to see the light of day first.
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Old 24th Jun 2011, 21:21
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A start maybe?
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Old 25th Jun 2011, 08:55
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Sorry, I agree with HD....poor spelling/punctuation indicates a lack of attention to detail....would you want that in a load controller,a despatcher or even a pilot? Get the basics right first. I have a 16 year old at home and would be disappointed if he wrote like that..
It might only be a post on a forum,but put the effort in..
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Old 25th Jun 2011, 10:18
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HPSC,

Firstly, its good to see that you are intending on a career in Aviation.

Unfortunately, I do have to agree with HD and mention that spelling is priority, particually within Aviation Operations.

None the less, you are keen which is excellent and you're aspirations for Pilot are obvious.

As many have mentioned, it would be good to get into the Aviation industry even if you are only doing Part time work.

I started at 15/16 doing Work experience at my local flying school, I was then working as a Operations Assistant for another flying school whilst studying at college & I am now working for a Charter company.

I wish you all the best in your future career and I hope that we haven't put you off.
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HPSC,

Firstly, it's good to see that you are intending on a career in Aviation.

Unfortunately, I do have to agree with HD and mention that spelling is [a] priority, particually within Aviation Operations.

None the less [one word], you are keen which is excellent and you're aspirations for Pilot are obvious.

As many have mentioned, it would be good to get into the Aviation industry even if you are only doing Part time work.

I started at 15/16 doing Work experience at my local flying school, I was then working as a Operations Assistant for another flying school whilst studying at college & I am now working for a Charter company.

I wish you all the best in your future career and I hope that we haven't put you off.
...by drawing attention to your bad punctuation and spelling then replicating it.
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Old 25th Jun 2011, 11:47
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Sorry, I agree with HD....poor spelling/punctuation indicates a lack of attention to detail....would you want that in a load controller,a despatcher or even a pilot? Get the basics right first. I have a 16 year old at home and would be disappointed if he wrote like that..
It might only be a post on a forum,but put the effort in..
First thing I do is circle the spelling errors and typos on a CV as an initial quality filter. A common error is for someone to claim to have done the Jeppesen course, then spell it Jepessen.
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Old 25th Jun 2011, 12:04
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One way to fly is to do the degree course at Huddersfield and enquire about joining the Yorkshire University Air Squadron.
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Old 25th Jun 2011, 12:34
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@Dallas,

To be perfectly honest, I can see why many people do decide to withdraw their registration with the forum.

I was typing the post via a iPhone, so it punctuates it as it as it seems to think.

He is a keen wannabe, so lets give him some enthusiam and try to help him, not to criticise him on his spelling or even my spelling!!!
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Old 25th Jun 2011, 14:53
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NDW,

Wasn't aimed at the wannabe. Look up 'irony' and re-read your advice post.
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Old 25th Jun 2011, 17:06
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Red face

I'm sorry about my mistakes, I was tired at the time.

I can spell perfectly well, I got 'B' & 'C' grade in GCSE English.

Yes, I know I made some mistakes, I dont need everyone discussing them

I didn't know about Yorkshire Univeristy Air Squadron, Thanks for the info

Im thinking of voulanteering at my local airfield to gain some experiance

Thanks
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Old 27th Jun 2011, 13:14
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I wouldn't bother volunteering at Huddersfield/Crosland Moor International........not a lot happens there

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Old 28th Jun 2011, 00:38
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HPSC

'I'm sorry about my mistakes, I was tired at the time.

I can spell perfectly well, I got 'B' & 'C' grade in GCSE English.

Yes, I know I made some mistakes, I dont need everyone discussing them'



I am not going to even entertain the red wiggly lines in the above post, your posting is better than mine.


In the days of modern C.R.M, Training, a post incident debrief like that, WILL be discussed, as said, not typed, for as long as it takes to be overtaken by the next hot topic.

All the best to you, as you choose it,

welcome to the fold,

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Old 29th Jun 2011, 10:30
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HPSC,

Good English skills really help in ground ops, as for a lot of roles you will spend a lot of time writing stuff - and it helps make a good impression on people you write to, be they clients, suppliers, prospective employers or whatever. However it's not a deal-breaker, I know quite a few dyslexic chaps who have done very well for themselves in the industry.

Second the UAS. I did a LOT of flying with the CCF and it was just fantastic. It's worth putting up with the "drill" and other stuff, also you get to shoot actual guns!

Also, find your local airfield / flying club, and hang around! They may be able to pay you in flying lessons (20 or 30mins per day, and when you look at the numbers that is actually not a bad deal AT ALL compared to stacking shelves or something else). You can taxi aircraft around, refuel them, man the radio, get to learn some "airmanship" and how it all works, get a good sense of safety early on, and shoot the breeze with experienced instructors. You can then hopefully move to a proper Ops job with an aircraft operator / handling agent or whatever path you see fit.
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