What is your take home pay at the end of the month?
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What is your take home pay at the end of the month?
Hi folks,
Thought I'd start one for this forum!
Ops controller, Irish Airline DUB < 2 years, 4 on 4 off, 2600/month after tax and VHI.
Good company and management but I'm aways broke!
Ahars
Thought I'd start one for this forum!
Ops controller, Irish Airline DUB < 2 years, 4 on 4 off, 2600/month after tax and VHI.
Good company and management but I'm aways broke!
Ahars
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From: It wasn't me, I wasn't there, wrong country ;-)
Some folks I've mentored through CoG (UK) then FAA Dispatch school now being offered between GBP2 & 2.6K PA by UK air carriers. One outfit in DXB offered AED15K PM = GBP2K you tell me, is that a frigging living salary?. For the many years I've been around, I've never seen salaries so relatively low as they are now. It really saddens me to see this, nye on slave labour!
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On £25k PA Gross, works out at £1569 GBP PM, i am perfectly happy with that but am interested to see what fellow ops officers are on as i honestly don't know what the going rate is on the market. Oh and its not shift work as i imagine that would make a difference.
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Merlinxx - circa £20K to £25K is about right for the UK.
blue monday - depends on the operator and how little they can get away with paying you. I've seen salaries as low as £14K for a ops controller at a largish operator and anything upto around £25K - anything above is supervisor/management.
Before I left the crazy world of crewing - was on around £16k a year (or just over £1K a month take home pay) as a crewing officer, which went upto circa £19K as a supervisor. Ops controllers at the time were earning circa £19K - believe they are now on around £22K.
Once outside aviation, its scary how far behind the industry appears to be in terms of salaries. At my new employer, a secretary's starting salary is £25K a year, with 36 days leave a year. I'm on around £30K gross (£1840 per month take home) doing a job that paid £23K in the aviation business.
blue monday - depends on the operator and how little they can get away with paying you. I've seen salaries as low as £14K for a ops controller at a largish operator and anything upto around £25K - anything above is supervisor/management.
Before I left the crazy world of crewing - was on around £16k a year (or just over £1K a month take home pay) as a crewing officer, which went upto circa £19K as a supervisor. Ops controllers at the time were earning circa £19K - believe they are now on around £22K.
Once outside aviation, its scary how far behind the industry appears to be in terms of salaries. At my new employer, a secretary's starting salary is £25K a year, with 36 days leave a year. I'm on around £30K gross (£1840 per month take home) doing a job that paid £23K in the aviation business.
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Merlinxx - circa £20K to £25K is about right for the UK.
blue monday - depends on the operator and how little they can get away with paying you. I've seen salaries as low as £14K for a ops controller at a largish operator and anything upto around £25K - anything above is supervisor/management.
Before I left the crazy world of crewing - was on around £16k a year (or just over £1K a month take home pay) as a crewing officer, which went upto circa £19K as a supervisor. Ops controllers at the time were earning circa £19K - believe they are now on around £22K.
Once outside aviation, its scary how far behind the industry appears to be in terms of salaries. At my new employer, a secretary's starting salary is £25K a year, with 36 days leave a year. I'm on around £30K gross (£1840 per month take home) doing a job that paid £23K in the aviation business.
blue monday - depends on the operator and how little they can get away with paying you. I've seen salaries as low as £14K for a ops controller at a largish operator and anything upto around £25K - anything above is supervisor/management.
Before I left the crazy world of crewing - was on around £16k a year (or just over £1K a month take home pay) as a crewing officer, which went upto circa £19K as a supervisor. Ops controllers at the time were earning circa £19K - believe they are now on around £22K.
Once outside aviation, its scary how far behind the industry appears to be in terms of salaries. At my new employer, a secretary's starting salary is £25K a year, with 36 days leave a year. I'm on around £30K gross (£1840 per month take home) doing a job that paid £23K in the aviation business.
Looks like i've done ok then, its my first flight ops job in civi street and is a few years since i left th RAF, just incase it all goes wrong, it best not though as i love aviation, really enjoyed ops in the RAF and really want to be with this company for many years to come and am 99% sure will be ok, but just in case what is it you do outside aviation, (thinking of the transferable skills)Transport & Logistic i assume?
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What is your take home pay at the end of the month?
FAA Licensed Dispatcher for Scheduled Carrier
$50K per year, 4 on, 3 off, loadsa overtime if you want it. Last year added $20K alone in OT. Add another 10% for shift differential.
Now, divide by 2, and thats $25K GBP, or $35K GBP after OT...
I know newbies out here that start around $35K USD. Fairly comparable all round I guess
$50K per year, 4 on, 3 off, loadsa overtime if you want it. Last year added $20K alone in OT. Add another 10% for shift differential.
Now, divide by 2, and thats $25K GBP, or $35K GBP after OT...
I know newbies out here that start around $35K USD. Fairly comparable all round I guess
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From: London
I am no longer an Ops controller but last financial year when I was in Ops, salary with Overtime approx £28500.
Without overtime pay was about £25000. Take home varied between £1500-1900 depending on how hard I worked!
Without overtime pay was about £25000. Take home varied between £1500-1900 depending on how hard I worked!
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About 6 months ago I started a post called "so where do we go from here?" - or something amongst those lines. The idea behind it being that lots of in Ops (in all it shapes and forms) are actually very skilled in what we do (apart from the long hours and responsability that comes with it all) but in the grander scheme of things we are actually very under paid.
Unless you local Ops Manager decides to start pushing up the daisies then it becomes really difficult to really start earning some serious bucks.
My personal opinion is that this is not fair - and most posts back up my opinion.
I have now decided to leave the Ops room (although still very much in aviation) to at least give myself a chance to have a run at the salary ladder.
hey ho hum!
Unless you local Ops Manager decides to start pushing up the daisies then it becomes really difficult to really start earning some serious bucks.
My personal opinion is that this is not fair - and most posts back up my opinion.
I have now decided to leave the Ops room (although still very much in aviation) to at least give myself a chance to have a run at the salary ladder.
hey ho hum!
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From: atlanta
where to go ?
Good question, I went from BD crewing (which was good fun but not necessarily hugely remunerated) to SITA (they have a flight ops dept and make you globetrot), learned IT there, then moved on to other more lucrative commercial roles in the airport/airline business. Keep following your nose !!
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Lauderdale
There has to be a differential* in title here:
Operations Manager : Flight or Ground
In some organisations, Flight also involves management of the Flt Crew function.
These are Aircrew or ex Aircrew functions.
Where as where true Flt (not turnround supervisors) Dispatchers are involved,
then the 50K+ GBP is realistic. Where there are no Real Flt Dispatchers involved, then apply supervisory scales, i.e. maybe 30 to 35K GBP.
Ask me how I know, I was one of the real ones, but then that was tax free.My last one in the UK was 44+K GBP + bonus/share options etc.,
50+K in the end.
You must take into account, pension, medicare, transport allowance, subsidised catering (cheap company/airport canteen), overtime ratio, leave allowance, staff travel (if any) etc., etc. They all add up to the overall package.
Cheers Merlin (not the Acft/Heli or aero engine)
* This gets back to the qualification of the title 'Dispatcher'. I had never heard this applied to Ramp personnel until around the mid 90s, it always was a Flt Ops function before then.
Operations Manager : Flight or Ground
In some organisations, Flight also involves management of the Flt Crew function.
These are Aircrew or ex Aircrew functions.
Where as where true Flt (not turnround supervisors) Dispatchers are involved,
then the 50K+ GBP is realistic. Where there are no Real Flt Dispatchers involved, then apply supervisory scales, i.e. maybe 30 to 35K GBP.
Ask me how I know, I was one of the real ones, but then that was tax free.My last one in the UK was 44+K GBP + bonus/share options etc.,
50+K in the end.
You must take into account, pension, medicare, transport allowance, subsidised catering (cheap company/airport canteen), overtime ratio, leave allowance, staff travel (if any) etc., etc. They all add up to the overall package.
Cheers Merlin (not the Acft/Heli or aero engine)
* This gets back to the qualification of the title 'Dispatcher'. I had never heard this applied to Ramp personnel until around the mid 90s, it always was a Flt Ops function before then.