Servisair close ABZ/EGPD base.
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A good post as it highlights several of the counter issues relating to both Servisair and the Airport in general.
Unfortunately for the staff at ABZ, Servisair's senior management in Scotland has been woeful and unaccountable for too long. There is a long list of errors, untruths and general lack of understanding of the direction required and methods to achieve this. The majority were employed during a black era of a mad ex serviceman who believed that it was possible to constantly reduce operating costs year on year. Sadly, due to many changes of ownership and manmagement the individuals in Scotland have been able to manage smoke and mirror pereformances whenever asked to account for their buisnesses.
As for the BAA, ABZ has been the runt of the BAA group for amny years. For a time is was the cash cow but that ceased many years ago; after the oil crisis of '86 would be my guess.
My only comment against your points is that no airport would look to expand their runway, and the cost at ABZ would be huge because of the topography, without the prospect of financial return. Sadly, one offer of a schedule to HOU would not come near; nor is there an untapped leisure market using equipment that would need the extra runway length.
My heart goes out to the Servisair staff at ABZ and I hope that they all secure alternative employment as soon as possible.
good luck,
GH
A good post as it highlights several of the counter issues relating to both Servisair and the Airport in general.
Unfortunately for the staff at ABZ, Servisair's senior management in Scotland has been woeful and unaccountable for too long. There is a long list of errors, untruths and general lack of understanding of the direction required and methods to achieve this. The majority were employed during a black era of a mad ex serviceman who believed that it was possible to constantly reduce operating costs year on year. Sadly, due to many changes of ownership and manmagement the individuals in Scotland have been able to manage smoke and mirror pereformances whenever asked to account for their buisnesses.
As for the BAA, ABZ has been the runt of the BAA group for amny years. For a time is was the cash cow but that ceased many years ago; after the oil crisis of '86 would be my guess.
My only comment against your points is that no airport would look to expand their runway, and the cost at ABZ would be huge because of the topography, without the prospect of financial return. Sadly, one offer of a schedule to HOU would not come near; nor is there an untapped leisure market using equipment that would need the extra runway length.
My heart goes out to the Servisair staff at ABZ and I hope that they all secure alternative employment as soon as possible.
good luck,
GH
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It's an airport Jim, but not as we know it…
Thanks Groundhand;-)
Regarding ABZ 'expansion' I'm probably guilty of repeating some improper propaganda?
We were told initially that BAA's excuse for such a woeful operation was that the MOD were blocking 'expansion' of the airport. If your take is correct, their excuse for failing to consolidate on the operation (such as it is) doesn't hold water (a bit like the plumbing apparently).
Perhaps it's a Grampian thing as the surrounding infrastructure e.g. roads is/are also inadequate.
This muchos muchos marketing activity regaarding Scotland as a tourist destination and yet ABZ remains steadfastly inconsiderate to all and any travellers.
Here are a couple of airport marketing campaign ideas:
Star Trek style:
It's an airport Jim, but not as we know it…
FaceOff style:
I's like an airport, but not…
Perhaps all airports are equally tawdry behind the scenes?
I share your sentiment that the folk who tried their best for the company should find gainful employment ASAP. As for the few rotten apples who spoiled it for everyone else - they know who they are - and the 'party' on the 8th should be, in the immortal words of Viinie Jones, 'emotional'.
OTG
Regarding ABZ 'expansion' I'm probably guilty of repeating some improper propaganda?
We were told initially that BAA's excuse for such a woeful operation was that the MOD were blocking 'expansion' of the airport. If your take is correct, their excuse for failing to consolidate on the operation (such as it is) doesn't hold water (a bit like the plumbing apparently).
Perhaps it's a Grampian thing as the surrounding infrastructure e.g. roads is/are also inadequate.
This muchos muchos marketing activity regaarding Scotland as a tourist destination and yet ABZ remains steadfastly inconsiderate to all and any travellers.
Here are a couple of airport marketing campaign ideas:
Star Trek style:
It's an airport Jim, but not as we know it…
FaceOff style:
I's like an airport, but not…
Perhaps all airports are equally tawdry behind the scenes?
I share your sentiment that the folk who tried their best for the company should find gainful employment ASAP. As for the few rotten apples who spoiled it for everyone else - they know who they are - and the 'party' on the 8th should be, in the immortal words of Viinie Jones, 'emotional'.
OTG
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With regard to the workforce allowing the shopsteward to be sacked,do you REALLY… ?
…know the full facts???????
This is a bit leftfield in what context does this apply to the thread?
This is a bit leftfield in what context does this apply to the thread?
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the word is AGS has got flight line handling but dont think they will stay once its up and running they will sell as they did in STN if they dont go broke like they did before as agcts 
as M Ward the owner has a drink problem, so they say.
as M Ward the owner has a drink problem, so they say.
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Drink problem
I have a drink problem too… can't get enough of the stuff.
I'm not sure that character assassination especially anonymously helps anyone.
What or who is AGS? Another air industry acronym for Ground Support?
For those poor souls who were clinging to the Servisair/Airways wreckage, it's (allegedly) apparent that the contracts such as they were, were sold on by Derichebourg owner of Penauille aka Servisair long before any announcements hit the ground.
There's a serious malaise here, as the cost increases tabled by Servisair to Flightline et al were met with resistance, and yet the charges of the companies offering 'cover' will have been met on a 'needs must' ad hoc basis. In the meantime people who worked hard lose their livelihoods?
I'm not sure that character assassination especially anonymously helps anyone.
What or who is AGS? Another air industry acronym for Ground Support?
For those poor souls who were clinging to the Servisair/Airways wreckage, it's (allegedly) apparent that the contracts such as they were, were sold on by Derichebourg owner of Penauille aka Servisair long before any announcements hit the ground.
There's a serious malaise here, as the cost increases tabled by Servisair to Flightline et al were met with resistance, and yet the charges of the companies offering 'cover' will have been met on a 'needs must' ad hoc basis. In the meantime people who worked hard lose their livelihoods?
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the word is AGS has got flight line handling but dont think they will stay once its up and running they will sell as they did in STN if they dont go broke like they did before as agcts as M Ward the owner has a drink problem, so they say.
They lasted about a year at Stansted and had a pretty good set up but things got tough and ended up selling it back to Aviance and upset a few people along the way but thats business I suppose.
They still conduct training at Stansted and I beleive they clean and cater aircraft at Norwich.
Would give them a year at ABZ topz
As for the drink problem , thats pretty irrelevant to the subject and wrong
TNB
