Pay for Dispatchers??
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Pay for Dispatchers??
Could anybody give me an idea about the pay Dispatchers are paid around the country with different companies, currently know somebody who is a dispatcher on less than £14000 per year and not only do they dispatch aircraft but also load bags on the aircraft and also in the baggage loading bay,as well as putting ground powers onto the aircraft along with performing aircarft pushbacks.
Just curious as to the correct amount dispatchers are paid and especially for the amount of work they do.
Thanks for anybody's reply to this.
Just curious as to the correct amount dispatchers are paid and especially for the amount of work they do.
Thanks for anybody's reply to this.
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From: France
Hello,
Senior flight dispatcher, 10 years experience : 2700 ?/month
all tax paid
Working for schedule/charter airline. My job consists in flight planning, flow control, sometimes weight & balance and that's it.
In few words, i'm happy
Tony Truand/France
Senior flight dispatcher, 10 years experience : 2700 ?/month
all tax paidWorking for schedule/charter airline. My job consists in flight planning, flow control, sometimes weight & balance and that's it.
In few words, i'm happy
Tony Truand/France
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From: In my own little world
I'm on the top end of the scale that Kilo Mike posted for LHR.
It's a shame that jobs in the airline industry in the UK are renowned for paying cr@p wages.
As an example, about 18 months ago on the staff website, they were looking for an Ops Duty Manager - circa £28K.
Onboard Media specialist - Circa £43K.
One runs the airline on a day to day basis, the other makes the nice pretty little graphics on the IFE between the films/programs. Now which gets paid the most.............
It's frustrating to say the least when the industry you choose to work in and the job that has serious safety implications pays you less than a Mcdonald's store manager gets !!!.
It's a shame that jobs in the airline industry in the UK are renowned for paying cr@p wages.
As an example, about 18 months ago on the staff website, they were looking for an Ops Duty Manager - circa £28K.
Onboard Media specialist - Circa £43K.
One runs the airline on a day to day basis, the other makes the nice pretty little graphics on the IFE between the films/programs. Now which gets paid the most.............
It's frustrating to say the least when the industry you choose to work in and the job that has serious safety implications pays you less than a Mcdonald's store manager gets !!!.
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Dispatch wages
Yes i do agree with some of the wage quotes out but it does depend who you work for. I've worked at LPL for over ten years and the wages the lonely dispatcher picks up are pennies for what they do, which could be anythin. I'd say between 13000-14000 per annum. But as some people out there have found there are some ground handling companies that look after there staff, and that is the key.PICK CAREFULLY
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From: In a Dutch polder, below sea level
Well, I've been a dispatcher ( with Servisair @ RTM, in The Netherlands) from 2001 until october 2003, when the company closed down. I made around 1750 euros net a month.
Then I was unemployed for three years. Next oppurtunity was to become a bus driver and guess: I earn the same amount of money now -for starters. When I work for 12 months in my current job I will earn a fair bit more than a dispatcher, around 1800 euros net a month with growing potential to 2000. The company wich pressed Servisair out of business at RTM, Aviapartner, pays less than Servisair did. So....
Tillerman.
Then I was unemployed for three years. Next oppurtunity was to become a bus driver and guess: I earn the same amount of money now -for starters. When I work for 12 months in my current job I will earn a fair bit more than a dispatcher, around 1800 euros net a month with growing potential to 2000. The company wich pressed Servisair out of business at RTM, Aviapartner, pays less than Servisair did. So....
Tillerman.
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From: Essex
I'm Currently a Rampy at LCY and I can confirm that we earn quite a bit more that dispatch when you include overtime and bonus payments.
Their are two dispatch companies at LCY and they pay between 15000 and 17000 basic, probably upto around 22000 to 24000 on overtime payments.
As a Rampy my basic is 16500 but including bonus I earn around 18500 and including overtime I'm on 24000 to 29000 depending on how much time I want to spend at work. A fair pay difference some may argue, but at LCY all Ramp agents are fully trained, we marshall, headset, GPU, Loadsheet etc, whereas the dispatchers can't even do a manual loadsheet!
The moral of the story here is that you have to look at what qualifies "real dispatch" as opposed to "loadsheet clerk". No offence is made by this remark, but I just wanted to point out that we are looking at such a wide skill set here and its hard to compare pay. Dispatchers that work to a FAA licence level will earn more, whereas low qualified dispatchers will earn less
Their are two dispatch companies at LCY and they pay between 15000 and 17000 basic, probably upto around 22000 to 24000 on overtime payments.
As a Rampy my basic is 16500 but including bonus I earn around 18500 and including overtime I'm on 24000 to 29000 depending on how much time I want to spend at work. A fair pay difference some may argue, but at LCY all Ramp agents are fully trained, we marshall, headset, GPU, Loadsheet etc, whereas the dispatchers can't even do a manual loadsheet!
The moral of the story here is that you have to look at what qualifies "real dispatch" as opposed to "loadsheet clerk". No offence is made by this remark, but I just wanted to point out that we are looking at such a wide skill set here and its hard to compare pay. Dispatchers that work to a FAA licence level will earn more, whereas low qualified dispatchers will earn less
Dispatchers can't even do a manual loadsheet? Who are you speaking for exactly? Everyone I work with at LCY can do a manual loadsheet, it's the first thing we were trained on.
As for marshalling, I can do that as well, it's not difficult.
You may want to check your facts and correct your statement.
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From: London
Ooops six, I was just thinking the very same thing!
Flyboy..what do the dispatchers do exactly then at LCY? I agree that as rampy you would do marshalling, headset, GPU etc. But if you are doing loadsheets aswell, leaves no requirement for a dispatcher per se?!!
Flyboy..what do the dispatchers do exactly then at LCY? I agree that as rampy you would do marshalling, headset, GPU etc. But if you are doing loadsheets aswell, leaves no requirement for a dispatcher per se?!!
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From: The Deep South
Lets be honest flyboy1818 would not be the 1st ramp agent and he won't be the last to confuse a loadplan for a loadsheet.
When i worked on the ramp a vast majority of RA's wouldn't even know what !a loadsheet was and the remainder wouldn't care !
When i worked on the ramp a vast majority of RA's wouldn't even know what !a loadsheet was and the remainder wouldn't care !
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Dispatcher ??????
Plse all don't confuse the title Dispatch in the UK sense i.e a body on the ramp doing load & ballance, baggage loading and ships papers with a Flight Dispatcher who is a Flight Planning/Watch/Meteo/Co Ops/Air Law/Aero Perf etc etc. Heaps of difference. Have fun on your windy cold ramp.
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From: London
ok makes a little more sense now!!
But where you mentioned the dispatchers at your company who cant do a manual loadsheet (assume u meant load plan)...is still odd! Usually they are the bods who create the loadplans manual or computerised which the headloader or rampie would follow! Nopoint creating a loadplan for something that will go out of trim!!
Its not uncommon now to hear of loaders on old contracts on £28k (who have been working for at least 10 years in the same company..airline to Ground handling agent) and new dispatchers who have to sign their life away on £18k!!!
But where you mentioned the dispatchers at your company who cant do a manual loadsheet (assume u meant load plan)...is still odd! Usually they are the bods who create the loadplans manual or computerised which the headloader or rampie would follow! Nopoint creating a loadplan for something that will go out of trim!!
Its not uncommon now to hear of loaders on old contracts on £28k (who have been working for at least 10 years in the same company..airline to Ground handling agent) and new dispatchers who have to sign their life away on £18k!!!
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From: liverpool
Flyboy1818 Is Right !!!!
I totally agree with flyboy, the level of responsability placed on the dispatch thses days is high. And the wage should go hand in hand. With the aspects of the job being more and more complex with the focus on a/c safety and SECURITY being high on the list, the pax and crews lives quite literatally bening in your hands.
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I think dispatch in this country is on the decline and in some locations the staff are making their positions redundent.
With active boarding and 25 minute turns, standard loading and direct comms flight deck to fueller, what is left for the dispatcher to do?
Airlines are trying to cut costs and unless the dispatcher drives the trurn and makes a difference then they are an expensive paper carrier.
There are exceptions with airlines such as LH / SK / AF and some long haul carriers where full weight and balance licences are required and you need to be certified to just 'ramp' the flight. This is due to cargo and special loading, baggage seperation, fuel calculations. In these circumstances then 20K is right.
As for the others, I really doubt the future and unless something is done, and not just by companies, but individual attitudes aswell, my feeling is that they will be a memory sooner rather than later.
Sad, as dispatch is a great job and a fantastic spring board to a good career in the industry. The AOC at MAN is like the rest room at GHI 15 years ago!
Cheers
With active boarding and 25 minute turns, standard loading and direct comms flight deck to fueller, what is left for the dispatcher to do?
Airlines are trying to cut costs and unless the dispatcher drives the trurn and makes a difference then they are an expensive paper carrier.
There are exceptions with airlines such as LH / SK / AF and some long haul carriers where full weight and balance licences are required and you need to be certified to just 'ramp' the flight. This is due to cargo and special loading, baggage seperation, fuel calculations. In these circumstances then 20K is right.
As for the others, I really doubt the future and unless something is done, and not just by companies, but individual attitudes aswell, my feeling is that they will be a memory sooner rather than later.
Sad, as dispatch is a great job and a fantastic spring board to a good career in the industry. The AOC at MAN is like the rest room at GHI 15 years ago!
Cheers
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From: The Deep South
I totally agree with flyboy, the level of responsability placed on the dispatch thses days is high. And the wage should go hand in hand. With the aspects of the job being more and more complex with the focus on a/c safety and SECURITY being high on the list, the pax and crews lives quite literatally bening in your hands.Sadly the position of disapatcher has been watered down in the eyes and esteem of the paymasters at many handling companies to the extent they would rather pay more to Passenger Handling or admin staff and or even promote more managers on higher salaries to attend workshops and do meaningless projects !
