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JET SET SPARKY 4th October 1999 23:00

IS IT ALWAYS THIS QUIET?
 

HELLO ALL ......
NEW USER AS OF 04/10/99..WONDERING WHY THIS PARTICULAR FORUM SEEMS TO BE V. QUIET IN THE WAY OF CHAT / NEWS /GOSSIP ETC ???
SURELY US ENGINEERS HAVE NOT RUN OUT OF ANYTHING TO SAY? VERBOSE? US? NEVER......
UNABLE TO FAULT...PLEASE MONITOR AND REPORT FURTHER.SATIS'

LME (GOD) 5th October 1999 22:10

We're supposed to be to busy running around changing p-bulbs for the idiots upstairs...it's an impression we should cultivate!!

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It flew in, it'll fly out

Blacksheep 6th October 1999 12:29

There now! And I always thought there was only five of us knew how to type;-)

Still, apart from hairy-**** engineers, are there any cute lady engineers out there to swap dirty stories with us?

Flap shot 6th October 1999 23:54

Yes its a pity more of us dont have something to say (myself included)

Le Pen 7th October 1999 10:50

Hey,
how about we find out how many of us there are here?
Lets start a count and add, say, how long we've done and who we work for.....
This could be a VERY short thread!!!!!!

OK here we go

one.........21yrs........BA


Not too hard, huh.

Love


LE Pen


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Nil Fault Found....My **** .

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H721 7th October 1999 20:52

I'm here.

A&C - fragrant harbour.



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Not much of an engineer

Flap shot 7th October 1999 23:32

I'm here, Avionics currently working in Malta

NOMAD 8th October 1999 13:44

I'm here too, A/C going to warmer places soon

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Airbornespanner 8th October 1999 17:07

Hi fellow LAME,s have been reading various forum responses and it seems that the flying fraternity are having all the say we need to increase our side of things.
I am a LAME from down under,just escaped from the GA side and have recently and entered the Regional airline sector.
Been in the game about 30 years
Whats with the rest out there ?.

growler 10th October 1999 12:00

A+C Licensed, 22years in the industry, currently working in Maintenance Control of the UK's "Budget airline of the Year!"

FrostySpanner 10th October 1999 16:42

Test Message from New User.
17 yrs on the Job.
In The Snow and In the Sand


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AME wages Suck!

FrostySpanner 10th October 1999 16:48

Engineers are always too tired at the end of the day since management always has the work force pared down to the bone that they seldom have the energy required to represent themselves in a forum. Throw in the constant shift work disruption to your circadian Rhythm and you get the "who gives a toss feeling".

EX EXpat

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AME wages Suck!

sadman 10th October 1999 19:28

Just got online,avionics tech with about 20 years exp.Work for "sexually inexperienced "lot at LHR.
"Growler"-how goes it now u r away from the "yellow and black"??? Drop me a line.

LME (GOD) 10th October 1999 20:10

For the record....18yrs notched...working for mid-east carrier on the line in LHR

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It flew in, it'll fly out

Bus429 10th October 1999 20:23

Avionics, 22 years in the industry. UK and Aus licensed. Worked on most Boeings from 707/720 excluding 727 & 777; A300/310/320 & DC10. Have done contracting, been an ex-pat etc.

Airbornespanner 11th October 1999 03:03

Hi Fellow LAME's,

Its good to hear from so many, Yes I agree that we as Lame's do not get much spare time I guess that we all work in excess of 40-50 hour a week. I have always believed that we should have duty hours such as the Pilots, not that I do not want to work but there is a safety issue here, I have seen the results of tired engineers.
The situation here in Australia is getting worse, not many organisations train or taking on apprentices, and Lame's leaving the industry, whats the situation like in your countries?.

6 DOF 11th October 1999 03:08

Prolly not the right forum for me, but I'm here too.

Flight Simulation (real ones, not toys), 30 years, downunder.

gaterbait 11th October 1999 07:34

i'm here too, almost 40 years in the game, work for major defense contractor, A&P.

spannersatcx 11th October 1999 15:27

Airbornespanner, and others if interested.
The Airline I work for has recognised the fact that human factors is a serious thing and as such has put time limits on how long we can work for in a day and that we have a minimun rest period. Max hrs in AOG situation that can be worked is 16 with minimum 8hrs rest. Normal shift max 12hrs.
20 1/2 years in aviation most recently CX for last 5 years.

spannersatcx 11th October 1999 15:28

sorry pc playing up

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spannersatcx 11th October 1999 15:29

sorry and again, can't you just tell I'm A n C

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Airbornespanner 11th October 1999 16:46

spannersatcx,
It is good to see the some organisations are taking the matter of engineer work hours seriously. I understand that our Airworthiness Authority are going to implement regulations on this matter but I fear that this will take some time !!!!! and whilst the airlines will probably conform I very much doubt the GA will take it seriously.

H721 11th October 1999 18:23

I must had violated the Heart of Asia Airline's comapny procedures.

Supporting outport AOG situations, on 1 occasion working 16 hours and another instance going 18 strong hours.

Engineers in this part of the world favour longer shift working hours (12-12.5) with more day-offs. The rationale is longer hours mean lesser chance of handovers, ideal for job continuity. We should judge the proper trade-offs.

Joined the game since 1988.

B747, B777, A330/A340, BAe 146.

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Not much of an engineer


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phyxit 11th October 1999 19:41

First solo 11/Nov/76, commercial pilot 1980.
Discovered wrenching steadier work, AME license 1983. Working for international airborne survey company for 10 years, mostly smallish twins.
Company recently limited duty hours to 14, which is very much quite enough after flying at low level in early a.m.

Satis 11th October 1999 20:49

I'm here too....17 years. Euro ex-patting in Asia.

Bus429 11th October 1999 21:16

Why has it taken so long to establish a rapport?

Bus429 11th October 1999 21:25

Growler,

Have you ever been to Berlin?

spannersatcx 11th October 1999 23:43

H721, going by your username, you may have different co procedures to us at CX outports. Having said that I'm now into hour 14 of another LD (Air Hong Kong)delay.
Bus429, were you with euro Berlin? if so I met an avionics chap at BMA LHR last week name of Jet! who was over there.

Bus429 12th October 1999 00:05

Spannersatcx - I was seconded for a month to Euro Berlin when Spotty M were managing the effort. I know a gent previously with EB/MAEL now working at BMA LHR.

Airbornespanner 12th October 1999 01:56

phyxit,

I spent the last 2 1/2 years with an International airborne survey company myself before recently joining the regional airlines, quite long hours when in the field and did find it interesting though.
Went first solo in 1967, did not go commercial enough work as LAME but did use my pilots licence for a number of years as a flying spanner chasing helicopters around Australia in a cessna 210, these were long hours.

LME (GOD) 12th October 1999 04:38

I suffered the moment everyone dreads, i was working in the UK as an Electric/Multi-x inspector (even thoug i'm IAA licensed...another story), i'd just waved goodbye to a 737-200, when 10 days later i got hauled into the office and told i was one of three inspectors under investigation by the CAA for MOR's arising from the check. Sphincter was twitching, The two A&C guys and myself had stuffed up to varying degrees, a lead lamp in the stab bay, a bolt on the flaps not cotter pinned...and my mistake was to not tell-tale wire the battery. To cut a long story short we had all been working 70-90 hour weeks for the last few weeks, and after we had cleared the area inspections, mechs went back in those areas to carry out routine maintenance. CAA took no action against us but seriously bollocked the company for overworking the inspectors. At the end of the day the MOR's were suspect as BA couldn't produce any evidence of the said mistakes, they "lost" the lead lamp and "never bothered" to take photos of the other things, which were relatively minor, but that's politics for ya!

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It flew in, it'll fly out

Bus429 12th October 1999 21:55

LME(GOD) - a classic "there-but-for-the-grace-etc".
I am annoyed that, despite anecdotes concerning the CAA admonishing maintenance management, nothing seems to change. My opinion is that this is due to the CAA's mandate to regulate and support the industry. How can an organisation do both? Perhaps the CAA should be absorbed into the DTER and funded by the tax payer (might reduce the charges, too).
There must be a few Accountable Managers unaware of their liablity (having signed the statement in their MMOE). It must also be true to state that a few engineers must be unaware of their liablity and responsibility to the Accountable Manager/CAA/the Public and themselves.

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Multi-X 13th October 1999 19:34

21 years - working in UK at present but looking. Any good contracts about? 737, 320 or 757.

Growler ex MAEL & Euroberlin? If yes what is your email address?

growler 13th October 1999 23:14

Multi-X, yes I was there, Stuttgarter Platz and all! Check my profile for e mail!

Horatio 14th October 1999 01:08

Ha...I was there too!

Anyone remember SPANKER? He did the party trick with the belly dancer and kicked his shoe directly into the lap of the CE of Euroberlin!

I still laff when I think of that one.

And then there was Bart Simpson...geesh!

Multi-X 14th October 1999 19:48

I was there when we christened him. It was either a nickname or a hiding from the large German boyfriend!! Luckily he became Spanker. As for Serious Steve what a w&*ker. Berlin was good until he arrived. Apart from Pixi Jim. Good to see Bootsie got the push.

Do you rememeber the Christmas Poem which caused some anger from LTN?

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Bus429 15th October 1999 00:06

I remember the poem. It ended something like:

"...and they flew off into the night.
Or they would've if Staff Travel
Hadn't b***ered up their flight!"

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JetMender 15th October 1999 02:14

Ah! those EuroBear days! I remember them (and the poem) well!
Stuttgarter Platz! Where was that???!
Good to see a lot of response in this forum.
Keep it up & keep 'em flying.

Horatio 15th October 1999 22:27

Anyone gonna admit to remembering Mon Cheries??? and especailly the jaccuzzi?

Come on guys, don't be shy!

Of course, I only ever heard about it!......

Pixie Jim, hmm...is he still running around after Bart at toilet town?

JET SET SPARKY 18th October 1999 22:16

Hi all! glad to see i've got the wonderful world of engineering talking!
Can you now shut the hell up as i'm recovering from a rostered 15 hour nightshift.......as we're still introducing ourselves...no prizes for guessing who i work for(1 year so far),14 years avionics line/hangar,keen as mustard,totally focussed,ever alert .....now where did i leave my maglight?? zzzzzzzzzzz
unable to fault please monitor & report further


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