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h3dxb 29th Oct 2011 11:06

????
 
Which part of our warnings you did not understand ? :ugh:

MATMAX 2nd Nov 2011 21:15

h3dxb , leave it !
look at where this guy is coming from ...
i have seen some of them who were not even able to read the AMM and they were having the gcaa license ...
exactly the kind of guy that ek needs ... not able to read and use their brain but "Sir , yes Sir" ... monkeys who are killing our job !!!
just hope that he will never have an EASA License or maybe in uk ...

h3dxb 3rd Nov 2011 16:25

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Yes Sir MATMAX will do so Sir :8 and Sir what is an AMM ? we have only NAN :ouch:

SlimLonggood 12th Nov 2011 21:50

So wotsaboutit
 
Whereas it may be perfectly understandable your indignation the guy keeps asking for inside knowledge when you guys tell him itīs not a good thing, you leave open the possibility of the rest of us inferring from your total dismissal that you are on the inside and donīt want any competition....??

Anyway, I too am curious about EK line stations and not being on the inside, I have no clue as to what the contents of what manual you should read to understand why itīs no good....perplexed and looking for enlightenment.

spannersatcx 13th Nov 2011 08:44

EK line stations, like any airline will be on local terms and conditions, good or bad who knows.
EK did set up a number of line stations, but have since closed a number of them too. So from an historical point you could say that it may not be as safe and secure as you may think, most of it is being outsourced.

I do know someone who works(ed) for EK at a line station, I believe the money was ok, but morale wasn't great and you have to watch your back.

Jingli 14th Nov 2011 07:32

EK outstations are about the same as most other majors airlines - pay is generally pretty good but all it takes is a management change of heart and the station could be closed and outsourced - so no different to any other airline job really.

bvcu 14th Nov 2011 08:21

another one closes today , north of the border.

MATMAX 14th Nov 2011 09:51

Sorry Jingli , but you are wrong.
A real major will always have their own staff because they do care about them and in return , their staff will give the best of themselves ...
Outsourcing is just to save money !
In the case of this so called airline , they have a huge lack of staff at their base and they are trying to get outstations guys there , thats it.
When you can not make any more money , you have to reduce your costs ...
Everything with them is about money , do not forget it !

Jingli 15th Nov 2011 07:47

How am I wrong? - I dont know of any major airline in North America or Europe that only allows their own staff to work to work on their aircraft. Every airline outsources transits at some stations, EK is no different to anyone else.

MATMAX 15th Nov 2011 10:24

ek is different as they do not have the same costs as real majors ...
i do not know about North America but quite sure that ek outstations guys are not handling AF , LH or BA ...
ek is not a major but a LCC ...

h3dxb 19th Nov 2011 04:31

EK
 
I knew the guy, who was responsible for outsourcing SYD. This decision was done without him. He had to lay off 14 really good chaps. As he got told to continue, he resigned, as he couldn't . As he left, the next one had to close his own station. So far to the "I can do it for 15% cheaper" rule.

England ? U R the next, as this guy interfered , he got investigated, as it was not his area.

EK, is a shiny company and there are good engineers, but you will never have safety. All people , which are pro employees will be sooner or later fail.

I know we will face a crisis in LAE's, in Safety, in Reliability of our loved Aircrafts, but I also know, that every manager, who starts to outsource failed his job.


just my 2 cents :eek:

Jet II 19th Nov 2011 08:11


Originally Posted by h3dxb (Post 6815461)
but I also know, that every manager, who starts to outsource failed his job.

Well there is no shortage of crap management within aviation that is true, but out of interest is there any airline that does all its own maintenance at every outstation?

Because I certainly cannot think of any.

Clipped 24th Nov 2011 04:38

I'm probably going to open a can of worms with this line of questioning, but, here goes.

Beside the issues already discussed here, I would like some factual opinion of other stuff that EK may or may not do well, such as, supporting your work output. That is, do they have adequate tooling, is the IT system useful, are the technician's competent, are there enough work stands, do you have transport to get from plane to plane, is there a free issue, how long does it take to get a part from store and etc. You get what I'm asking.

These are issues that can determine if you have a good day or not, that is, are you bogged down with so many inefficiencies that it makes it impossible to achieve anything and drives you to drink way too much just to calm down.

Be truthful please.

Cap 77 28th Nov 2011 00:19

line stations closing
 
Does this mean that EK stopped hiring new LAE for now until they accommodate their own staff from the closing line stations? Have you seen any new outsiders (not from the line stations) coming to Dubai lately? Thx

rennmax 10th Dec 2011 14:11

like ek
 
Stop complayining of the company ,is good place to work and clotheng is wash for free.

MATMAX 10th Dec 2011 17:32

rennmax or rainman ...?
to the ones who are thinking to join the joke , here is one of your future colleague ...
impressive ... no ?!

idntknw1 22nd May 2012 23:46

Avionics grade 6 or 7.
 
any idea how much emirates enginer grade 6 0r 7 earn? do they have different salary scale for non european and european engineer?u mentioned about gcaa license,how about easa or faa license ?do they accept either of them ?any idea how long they take to clear? does EK help to achieve those? i gt an ofer for grade 6 ,basic 6580 and utility allowance 2350 and grade 7540 and utility 4350,,, is it sounds the same what EK engineer earns there? i was quite excited but I live in nz when i compare the value of money i was kinda shocked to see how much they are offering. but again i need some honest opinion about career advancement. I mean what are the chances that i go there and get FAA or EASA and look for better opportunities?

idntknw1 23rd May 2012 00:02

can you not do the EASA while at EK
 
I herad about the GCAA license story so my question is can you not do the easa or FAA? what do u think?are they too hard to get ?generally how long do they take to get? I am thinking joinig line but nothing sure yet, the $$ is not convincing at all to be honest. Can you enlighten me how to advance my career if i join ? but again im still in thinking stage,


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