QF L.A.M.E. jobs
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From: Orstralya
6680740,
as far as pay goes, you should get paid for all the licenses you've listed. However, whilst working in 737 Heavy, they would only put your 737 tickets on their eQ system. At least that's the case with a lot of people working there who have 737 and 767 licences. My understanding, under the current pay system,is that you would enter on level 7 ($1476 per week base, plus 7.5% shift penalty). With Just E on the classic 737, you may find yourself at level 8 with two years ($1561).
HOWEVER, that is something you could and should definitely clarify with the HR rep on the interview panel. And then don't forget to get the ALAEA perspective on what your pay rate should be as well. Just to make sure.
Also worth a look is the current award itself. I think you can read/download a copy off the ALAEA website.
The lack of money may not a great selling point. However, the roster is. Monday to Friday, day (7am to 3pm) and afternoon (3pm to 11pm) shift. See anything missing? Nightshift and weekend work (unless on overtime). Very friendly for people with young families or who have had more than enough of nightshift.
Overtime is generally in abundance, albeit worked at some funny hours. However, it's usually there for those who want it.
Hope that has answered some of your questions, 6680740. If you do get to an interview with them, definitely bombard them with plenty of your own questions when given the opportunity.
Good luck.
as far as pay goes, you should get paid for all the licenses you've listed. However, whilst working in 737 Heavy, they would only put your 737 tickets on their eQ system. At least that's the case with a lot of people working there who have 737 and 767 licences. My understanding, under the current pay system,is that you would enter on level 7 ($1476 per week base, plus 7.5% shift penalty). With Just E on the classic 737, you may find yourself at level 8 with two years ($1561).
HOWEVER, that is something you could and should definitely clarify with the HR rep on the interview panel. And then don't forget to get the ALAEA perspective on what your pay rate should be as well. Just to make sure.
Also worth a look is the current award itself. I think you can read/download a copy off the ALAEA website.
The lack of money may not a great selling point. However, the roster is. Monday to Friday, day (7am to 3pm) and afternoon (3pm to 11pm) shift. See anything missing? Nightshift and weekend work (unless on overtime). Very friendly for people with young families or who have had more than enough of nightshift.
Overtime is generally in abundance, albeit worked at some funny hours. However, it's usually there for those who want it.
Hope that has answered some of your questions, 6680740. If you do get to an interview with them, definitely bombard them with plenty of your own questions when given the opportunity.
Good luck.
Last edited by chockchucker; 11th February 2010 at 22:07.
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From: Sydney
QF94,
Is that your age and are you one of these part timers????
Is that your age and are you one of these part timers????
I just observe what's around me and see what the hacks are doing to the place. If you have noticed, a few AME's have in recent months left the airline and have even left the industry, due to the fact that they were told by the S.I.T. ops manager that there will be no training, even though they were well on the way to completing their SOE, or had the SOE completed and just awaiting training.
There is even a prime example that an AME who has a CASA licence and a company type rating will not be acknowledged as a LAME on the eQ system or payroll system, because he had done an external type course.
What does this say about one's initiative to improve one's self, but is stepped on by management because it may cause a budget blow-out and affect the LAME/AME ratio?
I correct my figure of 12 LAME's that went to Base. 1 AME was included who had done a company course but didn't convert it to a licence.
Gas Bags, as I have answered your question, who are you?
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From: Australia
Dear QF94,
Another one of the group destined to spend my life on the good ship Qantas, cruising down the river of life, wishing the older folk would retire and create room for the younger kids.
And no doubt when I am one of those older folk I will be wishing those young kids would just dry up, blow away, and leave me in peace with my part time job, and my redundant license.
Then again???
GB
Another one of the group destined to spend my life on the good ship Qantas, cruising down the river of life, wishing the older folk would retire and create room for the younger kids.
And no doubt when I am one of those older folk I will be wishing those young kids would just dry up, blow away, and leave me in peace with my part time job, and my redundant license.
Then again???
GB
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From: Dark side of the moon
Airbus 330 course.
So who was "lucky" to be granted a A330 course? I heard that there was only one AME place? and that even had "conditions" attached to it!
Anybody feel free to comment?
Regards
PV
To QF94......
Anybody feel free to comment?Regards
PV
To QF94......
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From: Here and There in Australia
On the Dark Side
PV,
How does a fish survive in that environment?
And to the wannabes,
Effort is often its own reward but in my experience is also the best way of self promotion. Bitching, on the other hand, does not have a strong track record of getting people promoted.
So, be known as a 'doer' not a 'whiner'. 
Stop hanging around with the latter and look after your own career as priority #1.
P2G
How does a fish survive in that environment?
And to the wannabes,
Effort is often its own reward but in my experience is also the best way of self promotion. Bitching, on the other hand, does not have a strong track record of getting people promoted.
So, be known as a 'doer'
not a 'whiner'. Stop hanging around with the latter and look after your own career as priority #1.
P2G
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From: Skating away on the thin ice of a new day.
sohail
Sorry it has been a while since visiting this thread.
It is probabaly a language issue.Sorry if I did not make my point clearer.
The point of my post was to say that getting a job as a licensed engineer in Australia is poor, in my opinion. At qantas we have a number of people who have licenses but qantas will not pay them for their licence until they want to or need that licence.
Other airlines also have qualified LAMEs on staff but only pay them as AMEs until they want them to act as LAMEs.
It is probabaly a language issue.Sorry if I did not make my point clearer.
The point of my post was to say that getting a job as a licensed engineer in Australia is poor, in my opinion. At qantas we have a number of people who have licenses but qantas will not pay them for their licence until they want to or need that licence.
Other airlines also have qualified LAMEs on staff but only pay them as AMEs until they want them to act as LAMEs.
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From: Brisbane
Hi all.
I'm a noob to this forum and interested in a career change to AME Avionics.
Firstly, what is the pay difference between AME and LAME? The LAME pay seems to be pretty good, if you can get there. But what is the AME pay like and conditions?
I am based in Brissy and would like to stay here, have a young family and don't want to be doing night shift. I am currently on $75K in my present job but dissatisfied with the work. A small pay cut is acceptable in exchange for job satisfaction, but my goal would be to become licensed.
btw, I'm 35yo. Is that too late to be starting out?
Any comments welcomed.
Thanks.
I'm a noob to this forum and interested in a career change to AME Avionics.
Firstly, what is the pay difference between AME and LAME? The LAME pay seems to be pretty good, if you can get there. But what is the AME pay like and conditions?
I am based in Brissy and would like to stay here, have a young family and don't want to be doing night shift. I am currently on $75K in my present job but dissatisfied with the work. A small pay cut is acceptable in exchange for job satisfaction, but my goal would be to become licensed.
btw, I'm 35yo. Is that too late to be starting out?
Any comments welcomed.
Thanks.
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From: Sydney
Hi all.
I'm a noob to this forum and interested in a career change to AME Avionics.
Firstly, what is the pay difference between AME and LAME? The LAME pay seems to be pretty good, if you can get there. But what is the AME pay like and conditions?
I am based in Brissy and would like to stay here, have a young family and don't want to be doing night shift. I am currently on $75K in my present job but dissatisfied with the work. A small pay cut is acceptable in exchange for job satisfaction, but my goal would be to become licensed.
btw, I'm 35yo. Is that too late to be starting out?
Any comments welcomed.
Thanks.
I'm a noob to this forum and interested in a career change to AME Avionics.
Firstly, what is the pay difference between AME and LAME? The LAME pay seems to be pretty good, if you can get there. But what is the AME pay like and conditions?
I am based in Brissy and would like to stay here, have a young family and don't want to be doing night shift. I am currently on $75K in my present job but dissatisfied with the work. A small pay cut is acceptable in exchange for job satisfaction, but my goal would be to become licensed.
btw, I'm 35yo. Is that too late to be starting out?
Any comments welcomed.
Thanks.
Never too late to start out, but there is a lot of stiff competition competing for training.
If your present job is paying $75k you will be hard-pressed to see that sort of money starting at the bottom as you would as an apprentice for 4 years, not to mention the rotating shift-work and night shifts.
The pay difference between a high-end AME and low-end LAME is not a great deal, but to become a high-end AME will take a number of years after your apprenticeship, and you may be a grandfather by the time you achieve that. To become a LAME will take a minimum of about 10 years, including your apprenticeship, doing your basics subjects and then getting a course and filling in a Schedule of Experience for the types of aeroplanes you will be working on.
Hope this gives you some insight into the mysteries of the aviation industry.
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Hope this gives you some insight into the mysteries of the aviation industry
It's the night shift that is most of a deterent. I expect a pay cut for several years but would hope to get back to where I am eventually.
Luckily I have some time before I need to make a decision as the next avionics intake at Av.Aust doesn't start until Feb' 2011.
Now i know what SoE stands for
cheers,
watterman.
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From: Skating away on the thin ice of a new day.
I know a guy at a major ozzie airline who is an AME.
he actually has a CASA licence on the -800.
But despite the fact 737-800 guys are always being brought in on overtime the clowns at this major airline wont pay this guy as a LAME.
He spends his own money and holidays on an external course, gets the ticket does essentially a lot of LAME work (bar the actual sign off) but gets shafted by his employer who somehow thinks they are saving money by paying double dollars on higher paid guys.
Idiots.
It is not a one off case either.
Anyway, that will give you some idea of your chances.This guy is in his forties with a lot of OS experience not a newb to aviation.
he actually has a CASA licence on the -800.
But despite the fact 737-800 guys are always being brought in on overtime the clowns at this major airline wont pay this guy as a LAME.
He spends his own money and holidays on an external course, gets the ticket does essentially a lot of LAME work (bar the actual sign off) but gets shafted by his employer who somehow thinks they are saving money by paying double dollars on higher paid guys.
Idiots.
It is not a one off case either.
Anyway, that will give you some idea of your chances.This guy is in his forties with a lot of OS experience not a newb to aviation.
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From: AUSTRALIA
Two things.
1. There is no money in being a AME unless you do shiftwork,and that means working either early starts or late at night including overnight.
2. SoE really means Sex over East for those guys in the West
1. There is no money in being a AME unless you do shiftwork,and that means working either early starts or late at night including overnight.
2. SoE really means Sex over East for those guys in the West
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From: AUstralia
Hi
Hi Guys
I was wondering if any one has an idea what an EIR LAME with Jetstar at Cairns gets. Ratings on A320 and course completed on A330.
Also would it be a problem to move too Qantas is an opportunity arises....
Thanks in advance
I was wondering if any one has an idea what an EIR LAME with Jetstar at Cairns gets. Ratings on A320 and course completed on A330.
Also would it be a problem to move too Qantas is an opportunity arises....
Thanks in advance
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From: Skating away on the thin ice of a new day.
Maybe different in CNS but the qf and j* blokes rarely see each other where I work and may as well be working on another planet.
Changing uniforms probably entails a new start.In the very early days you could jump to J* with service intact but now I doubt it very much.
Changing uniforms probably entails a new start.In the very early days you could jump to J* with service intact but now I doubt it very much.
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From: Sydney
I know a guy at a major ozzie airline who is an AME.
he actually has a CASA licence on the -800.
But despite the fact 737-800 guys are always being brought in on overtime the clowns at this major airline wont pay this guy as a LAME.
He spends his own money and holidays on an external course, gets the ticket does essentially a lot of LAME work (bar the actual sign off) but gets shafted by his employer who somehow thinks they are saving money by paying double dollars on higher paid guys.
Idiots.
It is not a one off case either.
Anyway, that will give you some idea of your chances.This guy is in his forties with a lot of OS experience not a newb to aviation.
he actually has a CASA licence on the -800.
But despite the fact 737-800 guys are always being brought in on overtime the clowns at this major airline wont pay this guy as a LAME.
He spends his own money and holidays on an external course, gets the ticket does essentially a lot of LAME work (bar the actual sign off) but gets shafted by his employer who somehow thinks they are saving money by paying double dollars on higher paid guys.
Idiots.
It is not a one off case either.
Anyway, that will give you some idea of your chances.This guy is in his forties with a lot of OS experience not a newb to aviation.
How many ring circus is this major airline?
