Requirements for type A certificate in A/C maintenance
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Requirements for type A certificate in A/C maintenance
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I'm new on this forum, I've done some cheking and googlin' but cant really find good info about the requirements for type A certificate... as I understand there should be less requirements as compared to B1 or B2 certificate...
I am a FrozenATPL pilot, and have been given an opportunity to start working in maintenance (till this crisses ends) and still be a pilot and be able to do some minor checks, oil replacements and so... The company is a small one, buissines aviation, cessna XLS, 550...
I also have a diploma or BofS form faculty of engineering, university of Ljubljana, but it has nothing to do with JAA part147 unfortunatlly...
If anyone can help me with the advice on this A certificate and any opinions of this type of job (pilot + engeener) I would appreciate it!! Thanks!!
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I'm new on this forum, I've done some cheking and googlin' but cant really find good info about the requirements for type A certificate... as I understand there should be less requirements as compared to B1 or B2 certificate...
I am a FrozenATPL pilot, and have been given an opportunity to start working in maintenance (till this crisses ends) and still be a pilot and be able to do some minor checks, oil replacements and so... The company is a small one, buissines aviation, cessna XLS, 550...
I also have a diploma or BofS form faculty of engineering, university of Ljubljana, but it has nothing to do with JAA part147 unfortunatlly...
If anyone can help me with the advice on this A certificate and any opinions of this type of job (pilot + engeener) I would appreciate it!! Thanks!!
damir
Hi Hartte,
Its nice to see you being keen to get a Part 66 Cat A Licence - but its not as easy as you seem to indicate.
From Memory, the Training Syllabus is about 14 Modules and exams. Plus you will need certified work experience sheets showing full systems experience over a given amount of time. This may take two/three years if you can get the study time in and pass the required exams.
I am not aware of the NAA under which you operate in Slovenia, so I can only direct you to the UK CAA website:
ELGD | Personnel Licensing | Safety Regulation
Alternatively, you may want to read another translation of the EASA Part 66 regulations:
European Aviation Safety Agency - easa.europa.eu
For your info I have know some B1/B2 engineers who, as GA Pilots, used to complete their own Check Flights. I haven't seen any as Cat A Mechanics.
Its nice to see you being keen to get a Part 66 Cat A Licence - but its not as easy as you seem to indicate.
From Memory, the Training Syllabus is about 14 Modules and exams. Plus you will need certified work experience sheets showing full systems experience over a given amount of time. This may take two/three years if you can get the study time in and pass the required exams.
I am not aware of the NAA under which you operate in Slovenia, so I can only direct you to the UK CAA website:
ELGD | Personnel Licensing | Safety Regulation
Alternatively, you may want to read another translation of the EASA Part 66 regulations:
European Aviation Safety Agency - easa.europa.eu
For your info I have know some B1/B2 engineers who, as GA Pilots, used to complete their own Check Flights. I haven't seen any as Cat A Mechanics.
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if i get it right there is the same requirement for cat A and cat B (1,2)?? or is for cat B needed even more working experiance??
Ive been reading (very quickly) the JAA part 145 (not sure) and as i got it the cat A is only certified for very small, minor repairs, oil checks and so on... so I thought it would be somewhat easyer to get the certificate...
Slovenia is a JAA, now EASA member state so we're under those regulations...
I dont mind the exams, i managed those of ATPL and if these are any similar they wont be a problem...I hope... only the working experiance is a prob...3 years... for an oil check, tire pressure check...??
do you have to be superman than to get cat C certificate??
thanks for the info Rigga!!
if i get it right there is the same requirement for cat A and cat B (1,2)?? or is for cat B needed even more working experiance??
Ive been reading (very quickly) the JAA part 145 (not sure) and as i got it the cat A is only certified for very small, minor repairs, oil checks and so on... so I thought it would be somewhat easyer to get the certificate...
Slovenia is a JAA, now EASA member state so we're under those regulations...
I dont mind the exams, i managed those of ATPL and if these are any similar they wont be a problem...I hope... only the working experiance is a prob...3 years... for an oil check, tire pressure check...??
do you have to be superman than to get cat C certificate??
thanks for the info Rigga!!
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hejj I've just checked the link you posted... great!
Its 800 hours of training (that includes theoretical and practical) plus minimum 1 year of working experaiance as a line maintenance... thats for cat A... plus some parts of training can be recognized from the faculty...
but thats still one year... I'd rather be flying!!!
Its 800 hours of training (that includes theoretical and practical) plus minimum 1 year of working experaiance as a line maintenance... thats for cat A... plus some parts of training can be recognized from the faculty...
but thats still one year... I'd rather be flying!!!
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There are more ways of achieving a Cat A licence than labouring through the full approved full-time course....they all have the same basic requirements of passes in 12 Modules, completion of Practical training and assessments, and a minimum period of relevant work experience, which varies in length from 1 - 2 years according to whether or not you do the full approved course.
Distance learning is one way; but beware of non-Part 147 long-established companies recycling and selling old and out-dated material which will not help you in the exams. You have to take the exams with a Part 147-approved organisations or the CAA (in the UK), and arrange and pay for that yourself. The danger is that although it shouldn't happen, the material you study can differ from the material the exam tests you on.
One Part 147 company (Bostonair Training) has recently launched what they call a Blended course, combining home study (assisted by an on-line course) with weekend sessions for revision and exams run in-house under their own approval. It does not include the Practical, but that can be arranged. (They will also be running exams every three months or so for any/all Cat A and Cat B1.1 Modules, ie you book the exam you need and they'll run it, as I understand it.)
Several companies are now encouraging unlicensed mechanics to get an A Licence, even for Base maintenance work, and one or two are insisting on it as the benefits to the company of this become more evident.
Distance learning is one way; but beware of non-Part 147 long-established companies recycling and selling old and out-dated material which will not help you in the exams. You have to take the exams with a Part 147-approved organisations or the CAA (in the UK), and arrange and pay for that yourself. The danger is that although it shouldn't happen, the material you study can differ from the material the exam tests you on.
One Part 147 company (Bostonair Training) has recently launched what they call a Blended course, combining home study (assisted by an on-line course) with weekend sessions for revision and exams run in-house under their own approval. It does not include the Practical, but that can be arranged. (They will also be running exams every three months or so for any/all Cat A and Cat B1.1 Modules, ie you book the exam you need and they'll run it, as I understand it.)
Several companies are now encouraging unlicensed mechanics to get an A Licence, even for Base maintenance work, and one or two are insisting on it as the benefits to the company of this become more evident.
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Amazing, even bloody connie agencys are now approved to conduct engineers licence exams , you know it makes sense, makes you sort of wish for the old days dunnit, however im sure the same high standards that were the BCAR section L still apply.
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Yes, yes, I know, the old days were best.
I do not imagine that the standards required to get Part 147 Cat A Basic Training approval are any different for an agency than for an airline or college, of which several hold Basic Training approval.
We can reflect on the fact that the MTOs with the worst compliance standards that I have seen by a country mile, in the UK at least, are those set up by licensed engineers to sell type training only.
Agencies have been involved for many years in at least 2 MTOs with Basic Training Approval, one of which operates to very high standards to my certain knowledge, and the other probably does but I don't know them well.
I do not imagine that the standards required to get Part 147 Cat A Basic Training approval are any different for an agency than for an airline or college, of which several hold Basic Training approval.
We can reflect on the fact that the MTOs with the worst compliance standards that I have seen by a country mile, in the UK at least, are those set up by licensed engineers to sell type training only.
Agencies have been involved for many years in at least 2 MTOs with Basic Training Approval, one of which operates to very high standards to my certain knowledge, and the other probably does but I don't know them well.
