EASA vs CASA exams
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EASA vs CASA exams
Hi
Hopefully someone can set me straight on this. Looking around on the web and differance between the EASA B1 and B2 license is Modules 14, 13 ,4 and 5.
Comparing this to the CASA system there is
5 x "Q" Core Electrical,Instrument and Radio exams
2 x "E" Electrical exams
8 x "I" Instrument exams
12 x "R" Radio exams
Tell me I am wrong about this differance and there is more modules I have missed . If I am right are we going to dumb down the Avionics trade in Australia if we move to the EASA system ?
Hopefully someone can set me straight on this. Looking around on the web and differance between the EASA B1 and B2 license is Modules 14, 13 ,4 and 5.
Comparing this to the CASA system there is
5 x "Q" Core Electrical,Instrument and Radio exams
2 x "E" Electrical exams
8 x "I" Instrument exams
12 x "R" Radio exams
Tell me I am wrong about this differance and there is more modules I have missed . If I am right are we going to dumb down the Avionics trade in Australia if we move to the EASA system ?
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From: In the Hangar & on the Line
This is the Part 66 guidance document from our lovely UKCAA:
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/177/8355%20Section%20E_07.pdf
This is a list of knowledge levels for all EASA Part 66 AML categories:
http://www.easa.eu.int/ws_prod/g/doc...003_Part66.pdf
The relevant crap to your question starts at Page 10.
Its not so much about dumbing down with EASA. More about
costs going up and the 'pure B2' being limited in scope with respect to
certain systems (mechanically linked). These systems he/she may have been able to certify previously. Under grandfather rights, some retained
priveleges in the form of a 'elec' B1 licence (no airframe/no engine, what?), others were not so successful.
To this end, many B2's are now attaining full B1 AMLs (And vice versa
to remain equivalent - looks good on Part 145 Company Approvals re:B1/B2 support staff though).
It is still common practice for the B2 to perform all 'B1' electrical tasks
routine, non-routine in the average UK Part 145 MRO base or line.
The B2 may perform this work BUT can't certify because its definitions
are B1!
CASA have bought into this franchise I'm afraid
I say about 'Not dumbing down' - questions & answers now available everywhere, people passing parrot fashion. Experience records embellished/falsified. No oral exams with these AMLs you see...
BAe146???
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/177/8355%20Section%20E_07.pdf
This is a list of knowledge levels for all EASA Part 66 AML categories:
http://www.easa.eu.int/ws_prod/g/doc...003_Part66.pdf
The relevant crap to your question starts at Page 10.
Its not so much about dumbing down with EASA. More about
costs going up and the 'pure B2' being limited in scope with respect to
certain systems (mechanically linked). These systems he/she may have been able to certify previously. Under grandfather rights, some retained
priveleges in the form of a 'elec' B1 licence (no airframe/no engine, what?), others were not so successful.
To this end, many B2's are now attaining full B1 AMLs (And vice versa
to remain equivalent - looks good on Part 145 Company Approvals re:B1/B2 support staff though).
It is still common practice for the B2 to perform all 'B1' electrical tasks
routine, non-routine in the average UK Part 145 MRO base or line.
The B2 may perform this work BUT can't certify because its definitions
are B1!
CASA have bought into this franchise I'm afraid
I say about 'Not dumbing down' - questions & answers now available everywhere, people passing parrot fashion. Experience records embellished/falsified. No oral exams with these AMLs you see...
BAe146???
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BAe146
checked out
http://www.easa.eu.int/ws_prod/g/doc...003_Part66.pdf
but check out the Australian syllabus or Airframe
http://www.casa.gov.au/ame/download/ctc_210s.pdf
and E,I & R syllabus
http://www.casa.gov.au/ame/download/eir_211s.pdf
You will notice there is a lot more learning to get an EIR license than a B2
Some people told me that the EASA learning is more modern but I have seen the Aviation Australia notes and they where just the same in fact they use propellors notes from QAC
I agree with you about costs and the parrot learning , something we want to avoid here. Its hard enough to get people into engineering.
checked out
http://www.easa.eu.int/ws_prod/g/doc...003_Part66.pdf
but check out the Australian syllabus or Airframe
http://www.casa.gov.au/ame/download/ctc_210s.pdf
and E,I & R syllabus
http://www.casa.gov.au/ame/download/eir_211s.pdf
You will notice there is a lot more learning to get an EIR license than a B2
Some people told me that the EASA learning is more modern but I have seen the Aviation Australia notes and they where just the same in fact they use propellors notes from QAC
I agree with you about costs and the parrot learning , something we want to avoid here. Its hard enough to get people into engineering.
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From: Australia
I have aussie EIR and Eng/AF Licence. 5 trades. Now that Casa have dumbed down the avionics licence I have moved on from aviation. 22 years of study and now they give my qualifications away. Good news is I earn more working outside of aviation writing software, just wish I hadn't wasted those 22 years fixing planes.
The way to fix the skills shortage in Aus is improve the pay and working conditions of Lames, not import foreign underpaid slaves.
The way to fix the skills shortage in Aus is improve the pay and working conditions of Lames, not import foreign underpaid slaves.
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From: Sydney
Not dumbed down, but IMHO, if you can, get a CAR 31 EIR license before they cease to exist. On conversion you will get a B2 plus limited B1. In other words, you wont lose any privileges.
But if you are not careful, you may end up on a type course that will only give you B2 privileges for that type...
Feel free to pm me if you want specific advice.
Spanner90
But if you are not careful, you may end up on a type course that will only give you B2 privileges for that type...
Feel free to pm me if you want specific advice.
Spanner90
