BSc (Hons) Aircraft Maintenance Top-up degree
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Hi there Jethrotull. Thanks for you reply.One of the reason of i chose a degree bath is because i have not got much clue about AME's.I did finish my electrical and electronics engineering . In my engineering there where many mechanical subjects also,i seem to like those subjects better than the electronics subject that i study . Do tell you frankly i find electronics subjects very dry . In my AME also i would like to pursue the mechanical line than compared to avionics lines.I though if i do a degree in AME i would know the insides of the aviation industry much more than what i do right now.I do have 2 years work experience in Dell computers . The job experience is not in anyway connected to the UG degree that i did.So i though in order for me to enter the field of aviation i need to do something related to aviation first of all! DO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG ? Would like to know how the course works. What happens when i finish a degree course with good scores.Will i be able to get a good job if i do my AME in Universities like kingstone, glamorgan,bristol .Do big companies come to campus interviews to these colleges.Or do i have to do a self paid type rating course once i finish the degree. i do know that right now the aviation market especially in UK is very bad. By end of 2012 by the time i graduate the market wont it be better??
Since i already have a degree would it be better if i just do a diploma course in AME in canada which would be much cheaper. AME Training in Canada - Aviation School, Pilot Training in India, Commercial Pilot Training, Commerical Pilot License, Sunsea, Pilot Training in Australia, Pilot Training in USA, Flight Training, Sunsea Aviation, Best Flying School, Pilot Training i . The link of the above college i sent you offers a 29 month industrial training also .Would it be a better choice? Whats the difference in doing a diploma or a degree in AME considering job prospects??
THANKYOU FOR YOUR TIME Jethrotull!!
Since i already have a degree would it be better if i just do a diploma course in AME in canada which would be much cheaper. AME Training in Canada - Aviation School, Pilot Training in India, Commercial Pilot Training, Commerical Pilot License, Sunsea, Pilot Training in Australia, Pilot Training in USA, Flight Training, Sunsea Aviation, Best Flying School, Pilot Training i . The link of the above college i sent you offers a 29 month industrial training also .Would it be a better choice? Whats the difference in doing a diploma or a degree in AME considering job prospects??
THANKYOU FOR YOUR TIME Jethrotull!!
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@Bala Murali,
i have done my ame course in india. To become an AME all you need is a LICENSE... Degree, diploma's are all next to useless. Why don't u just stick to your field brother coz here getting OJT (On Job Training) only was a big pain my arse. Coz here all the companies wanted only reccomdations none of them checked my semester marks and in depth manymore politics goes on..
i have done my ame course in india. To become an AME all you need is a LICENSE... Degree, diploma's are all next to useless. Why don't u just stick to your field brother coz here getting OJT (On Job Training) only was a big pain my arse. Coz here all the companies wanted only reccomdations none of them checked my semester marks and in depth manymore politics goes on..
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If you have the funding and time, go for a course anywhere UK, CANADA or AUS however bear in mind you are not going to be any better off than a guy without a similar course certificate but the same licence as you.
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Hi there gizmo.I though of what you said alot of times given the hurdles in aviation .i many be very safe in the current field that i am at now, but never in my life will i get the job satisfaction. Till now i haven't any got any positive feedback about AME from anyone but got to take some risk . i want that risk to be a calculated one not a foolish one.So of the lot let me know where would it be a good gamble to do my AME course. Aint OJT's possible even if we join the Kingston or the Glamorgan ?? Let me know .Where are you planing to go ?? May be i could join you there !!!
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@ BALA : I have completed my ame course as well as my diploma in mechanical engg. The words you typed on top reminded me of exactly how i was when i hoined the AME course after i had completed my diploma . I had an option of doing my degree and choose the AME course . I thought exactly like u that i will go through all the hurdles and join AME n i will get a job in this field . 3 years later , now i so regrett taking this course i struggled day in and out for a training to no avail. In INDIA it doesnt matter wether u did ur course from the top most college in the world or how many licences uve cleared , all that matters to get a job is what contacts u have in the industry . I stood first in my entire bactch of 60 student but till today not even 1 person has even looked at my marks card not one person has called me even for an interview .
I have applied in all the companies u can imagine but not even a single mail or call. I know of people who dont even know head o tail o what an aircraft is but with a ministers recommendation theve got a job even without an interview . All the interviews happen internally and no one comes to know what happened when . I love planes so dearly BALA but in this corroupt country that is not what they require . I swear u will be shocked when u enter this field and see the thousands of students who have not even attended interviews till now and are jobless since the past 3 years or so . Wether u study from uk usa austalia wherever , if u dont have a contact n money to shell through ur nose as a bribe to the hr dept , u can place that AME certificate in ur briefcase n leave it to rott . That is what the state of my certificate is now . Ask any student in india who has done their AME wether they regret doing this course and ill throw u a 1000 dollar bill if even one person says NO.
Believe me bala today ur saying ull make it some how , 3 years latter ull be typing the same thing as i am right now thinking that i should have done that degree . 1000DS of kid here are jobless n im tell u that not 1 single guy since my 3 bathes senior has got a job until now . all are at home regretting . Plz take my advice Indias aviation sector is so corrupt ull never stand a chance 3 yrs later all ull do is running pillar to post to no avail . I did the mistake u dont do it .. take care
I have applied in all the companies u can imagine but not even a single mail or call. I know of people who dont even know head o tail o what an aircraft is but with a ministers recommendation theve got a job even without an interview . All the interviews happen internally and no one comes to know what happened when . I love planes so dearly BALA but in this corroupt country that is not what they require . I swear u will be shocked when u enter this field and see the thousands of students who have not even attended interviews till now and are jobless since the past 3 years or so . Wether u study from uk usa austalia wherever , if u dont have a contact n money to shell through ur nose as a bribe to the hr dept , u can place that AME certificate in ur briefcase n leave it to rott . That is what the state of my certificate is now . Ask any student in india who has done their AME wether they regret doing this course and ill throw u a 1000 dollar bill if even one person says NO.
Believe me bala today ur saying ull make it some how , 3 years latter ull be typing the same thing as i am right now thinking that i should have done that degree . 1000DS of kid here are jobless n im tell u that not 1 single guy since my 3 bathes senior has got a job until now . all are at home regretting . Plz take my advice Indias aviation sector is so corrupt ull never stand a chance 3 yrs later all ull do is running pillar to post to no avail . I did the mistake u dont do it .. take care
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From practical experience of forty years in the aviation maintenance game, the only degree worth anything at all is one in bean counting...accountancy or one of the associated financial areas or marketing...
Look at the senior management of any big company and you will not find an engineering degree anywhere.
So you are going to blow £3000 on a degree course which really has no relevance; you will be screwed by the bean counters just as much as, and just the same as those without a degree but with a lifetime experience of hands-on...
Maybe with a major aircraft manufacturer such as Airbus, Boeing or Dassault a degree will carry some clout and indeed maybe a pre-requisite, but for aircraft maintenance all it's worth are the letters after your name...
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Look at the senior management of any big company and you will not find an engineering degree anywhere.
So you are going to blow £3000 on a degree course which really has no relevance; you will be screwed by the bean counters just as much as, and just the same as those without a degree but with a lifetime experience of hands-on...
Maybe with a major aircraft manufacturer such as Airbus, Boeing or Dassault a degree will carry some clout and indeed maybe a pre-requisite, but for aircraft maintenance all it's worth are the letters after your name...
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It's been said again and again. If you want to design aircraft and components, do a degree. If you want to work as an aircraft mechanic do an apprenticeship.
Forget dreams of doing a degree and walking into a maintenance job. It simply doesn't happen - not within EASA anyway. The degrees may offer a way through the taught/academic parts of the qualification but without the 5 years hands on experience they are worthless. I get several applications a week from people who have done the degree and can't get anywhere to do the hands-on time. We can't handle more than we are doing, and I think there are a lot of people wasting a lot of time and money because they don't understand how the process works.
Forget dreams of doing a degree and walking into a maintenance job. It simply doesn't happen - not within EASA anyway. The degrees may offer a way through the taught/academic parts of the qualification but without the 5 years hands on experience they are worthless. I get several applications a week from people who have done the degree and can't get anywhere to do the hands-on time. We can't handle more than we are doing, and I think there are a lot of people wasting a lot of time and money because they don't understand how the process works.
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Bala,
you're not likely to get much OJT doing Bristol/Glamorgan course, unless you're sponsored by a specific company. Sure, some Malaysians are already working on aircraft during summer, getting the required work experience little by little, now that it's holidays, then back late Sept for second year (Glamorgan/Barry).
I'm kinda disappointed regarding the practical training. Sure, bit of basic skills, but no live aircraft, no serious playing about, just couple small things.
Had I been young, I'd have no doubt regarding modern apprenticeship.
That is, knowing what I know now or past year or two and if I were raised in the UK.
I could get some work experience on GA piston stuff if I had time, either in UK or elsewhere in Europe, but for the purposes of B1.1, ehrm, it'd be tough to get over the Catch-22, never mind making ends meet if getting unpaid work experience.
Although, recent UK regulations/employment law changes suggest unpaid work experience will be thing of past soon - at least NMW.
BTW, Glamorgan now have J31 on the campus, but so far advertising for staff before I left for summer, while there are many experienced Barry staff who possibly could help out with some hands on training (although not as FT, obviously). So far it's been only useful for the news on UoG website. I can't see how students would get enough hours of useful training each, during academic year either.
you're not likely to get much OJT doing Bristol/Glamorgan course, unless you're sponsored by a specific company. Sure, some Malaysians are already working on aircraft during summer, getting the required work experience little by little, now that it's holidays, then back late Sept for second year (Glamorgan/Barry).
I'm kinda disappointed regarding the practical training. Sure, bit of basic skills, but no live aircraft, no serious playing about, just couple small things.
Had I been young, I'd have no doubt regarding modern apprenticeship.
That is, knowing what I know now or past year or two and if I were raised in the UK.
I could get some work experience on GA piston stuff if I had time, either in UK or elsewhere in Europe, but for the purposes of B1.1, ehrm, it'd be tough to get over the Catch-22, never mind making ends meet if getting unpaid work experience.
Although, recent UK regulations/employment law changes suggest unpaid work experience will be thing of past soon - at least NMW.
BTW, Glamorgan now have J31 on the campus, but so far advertising for staff before I left for summer, while there are many experienced Barry staff who possibly could help out with some hands on training (although not as FT, obviously). So far it's been only useful for the news on UoG website. I can't see how students would get enough hours of useful training each, during academic year either.
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It's been said again and again. If you want to design aircraft and components, do a degree. If you want to work as an aircraft mechanic do an apprenticeship.
Forget dreams of doing a degree and walking into a maintenance job. It simply doesn't happen - not within EASA anyway. The degrees may offer a way through the taught/academic parts of the qualification but without the 5 years hands on experience they are worthless. I get several applications a week from people who have done the degree and can't get anywhere to do the hands-on time. We can't handle more than we are doing, and I think there are a lot of people wasting a lot of time and money because they don't understand how the process works.
Forget dreams of doing a degree and walking into a maintenance job. It simply doesn't happen - not within EASA anyway. The degrees may offer a way through the taught/academic parts of the qualification but without the 5 years hands on experience they are worthless. I get several applications a week from people who have done the degree and can't get anywhere to do the hands-on time. We can't handle more than we are doing, and I think there are a lot of people wasting a lot of time and money because they don't understand how the process works.
Both routes of education and training are tough and valuable, but they are united by very little more than the words "aeroplane" and "engineering" - the skill sets are very different, and even the emphasis of the educational components of the apprenticeship/LAME course is very different to those of a degree.
Anybody coming to the end of the education phase of either route into engineering is looking at almost starting again to switch their career path into the other.
That said, people who have a good handle on both, are rare and valuable creatures.
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I got my C license on all my types because I was clearing SMICRS on Base checks already for a few years when I chopped in my BCAR A&C for a full B1 when I passed the restriction modules and had the necessary experience requirements a few years back
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I got my C license on all my types because I was clearing SMICRS on Base checks already for a few years when I chopped in my BCAR A&C for a full B1 when I passed the restriction modules and had the necessary experience requirements a few years back
I looked on it as every little bit helps and I can still use my BCAR ones if needed on some of the exotica. Though I would have lost my "Nominated Engineer " Approval when we did not renew our BCAR approvals, I have my C under EASA, so if needed I should be able to get that back..
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PLZ HELP carrier guidance
Hi all, i'm new here...
I have searched the internet thousands of times and now almost feel like giving up coz the searches didn't reveal much.
I am planing to do an aircraft maintenance course but the best 1 in the country (except for srilankan airlines AMT course which is another story) offers B1.2 licence.
will i be able to become a qualified aircraft maintenance engineer with the first step being B1.2 license??
will it be hard to get employed as a technician??
will the route be more harder this way??
PLZ guys i really need ADVICE
I have searched the internet thousands of times and now almost feel like giving up coz the searches didn't reveal much.
I am planing to do an aircraft maintenance course but the best 1 in the country (except for srilankan airlines AMT course which is another story) offers B1.2 licence.
will i be able to become a qualified aircraft maintenance engineer with the first step being B1.2 license??
will it be hard to get employed as a technician??
will the route be more harder this way??
PLZ guys i really need ADVICE
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chimera,
This will explain the groups to you.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/177/8355%20Section%20D_07.pdf
This will explain the groups to you.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/177/8355%20Section%20D_07.pdf
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thank u Alber Ratman nd NutLoose
so do u any place where i can do a good course bt it has 2 b cheap!!!
or i can do a BEng in mechanical engineering.degree is from wolverhampton university bt can b completed full in sri lanka in the "cinec maritime campus"
will it help to get into tha aviation field later in my life??
nd do u know abt the degree mentioned above, is it recognized??
so do u any place where i can do a good course bt it has 2 b cheap!!!
or i can do a BEng in mechanical engineering.degree is from wolverhampton university bt can b completed full in sri lanka in the "cinec maritime campus"
will it help to get into tha aviation field later in my life??
nd do u know abt the degree mentioned above, is it recognized??
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