Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer Shortage
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WRT post #10, The BA Approved Personnel/Part 66 Conversions.
Here's a link to the latest update in the ALAE 1981's efforts to obtain an example Conversion Report and suitable full explanation from the UKCAA
including details of adherence to conversion terms as laid out in
EASA Part 66.
http://www.alae.org//_assets/File/Do...20UK%20CAA.pdf
The UKCAA SRG PLD cannot continue to evade responsibility for its actions...
BAe146???
Here's a link to the latest update in the ALAE 1981's efforts to obtain an example Conversion Report and suitable full explanation from the UKCAA
including details of adherence to conversion terms as laid out in
EASA Part 66.
http://www.alae.org//_assets/File/Do...20UK%20CAA.pdf
The UKCAA SRG PLD cannot continue to evade responsibility for its actions...
BAe146???
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2 years left in RAF- B1 licence?
HI all,
Id just like to post a similar question to Kengineer,
I too have served 10 years in the RAF as a now, mechanical aircraft technician. I'm about to complete my 2nd 'Q' course on gas turbine engines.
I'm looking at getting out at my 12 year pension point and possibly studying over the next 2 years towards a B1 (admittedly my leg. is poor as the system seems to change quite a lot!) - this may not even be 'the' licence in 2 years time?
my question is this:
Is there a real shortage of licenced engineers or is it the pay and conditions have deteriorated that much people have had enough?
I, and Kengineer im sure have just suffered the outcomes of 8,000 people being made redundant (thanks labour!) and our conditions are getting to the flight safety critical point. people are leaving in their droves.
Would you recommend me studying (resettlement, college) for a B1? I'm very interested in the aviation industry and like many ex-forces people do not want to waste all the 'experience' However I am no way implying my experience on fast jets has much weight compared to a full apprentice-trained technician with 20+ years in the industry, if anything I would hope these people would 'show me the ropes' and I could learn a great deal from them? as lets be honest, I'll effectively be a student!
Forgive me If I have replicated Kengineers' post, I'm a little unsure as to the direction I should take, all I know is it most probably will be OUT of the MOD career path. I have other options I am looking into, but if they do not come to fruition, I may continue my aviation maintenance experience outside the RAF.
Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you.
Id just like to post a similar question to Kengineer,
I too have served 10 years in the RAF as a now, mechanical aircraft technician. I'm about to complete my 2nd 'Q' course on gas turbine engines.
I'm looking at getting out at my 12 year pension point and possibly studying over the next 2 years towards a B1 (admittedly my leg. is poor as the system seems to change quite a lot!) - this may not even be 'the' licence in 2 years time?
my question is this:
Is there a real shortage of licenced engineers or is it the pay and conditions have deteriorated that much people have had enough?
I, and Kengineer im sure have just suffered the outcomes of 8,000 people being made redundant (thanks labour!) and our conditions are getting to the flight safety critical point. people are leaving in their droves.
Would you recommend me studying (resettlement, college) for a B1? I'm very interested in the aviation industry and like many ex-forces people do not want to waste all the 'experience' However I am no way implying my experience on fast jets has much weight compared to a full apprentice-trained technician with 20+ years in the industry, if anything I would hope these people would 'show me the ropes' and I could learn a great deal from them? as lets be honest, I'll effectively be a student!
Forgive me If I have replicated Kengineers' post, I'm a little unsure as to the direction I should take, all I know is it most probably will be OUT of the MOD career path. I have other options I am looking into, but if they do not come to fruition, I may continue my aviation maintenance experience outside the RAF.
Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you.
Don't undersell youself or your experience.
A large proportion (majority?) of UK maintenance engineers are ex military.
Most of the apprenticeships died years ago and are only just being resurrected.
The money in the airlines and the offshore helicopters has been rising consistantly.
With a overtime £50,000+ is achievable.
My basic has just risen to £39,000 in my first year with a new employer.
If the restrictions are lifted off my licence I get a further £4,000
Any additional type ratings bring £1500 each.
If I get B2 (fat chance) then another £4,000 is added.
A large proportion (majority?) of UK maintenance engineers are ex military.
Most of the apprenticeships died years ago and are only just being resurrected.
The money in the airlines and the offshore helicopters has been rising consistantly.
With a overtime £50,000+ is achievable.
My basic has just risen to £39,000 in my first year with a new employer.
If the restrictions are lifted off my licence I get a further £4,000
Any additional type ratings bring £1500 each.
If I get B2 (fat chance) then another £4,000 is added.
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jumping through hoops
currently sitting my part 66 1.3 modules however i find it infuriating at the lack of effort from the CAA. Having to wait nearly four months to get an exam date is completely sole destroying.
An industry that is nearly on its knees for the lack of licensed engineers and the don't seem to want to help. What the F@?% is going on.
Kids today want the quick buck, you can do a plastering course and be earning over £150 a day within six months of learning. So what is the point in working your nuts off for probably seven years for the same outcome.
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An industry that is nearly on its knees for the lack of licensed engineers and the don't seem to want to help. What the F@?% is going on.
Kids today want the quick buck, you can do a plastering course and be earning over £150 a day within six months of learning. So what is the point in working your nuts off for probably seven years for the same outcome.
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Hi gents
I am after a wee bit of advice reference CAA giving credits against modules for ex-forces.
Not knowing much about the previous lisence and the credits they used to give, I have heard a rumour they 'may' be considering this again.
I e-mailed the CAA weeks ago and have had nothing back since, is this a common problem with them?
For the record I did a three year apprenticeship in airframes and propulsion and have been 'in' for 21 years with experince on Buccaneers, Hunters, Tornado and the last 6 on Nimrods as an aircraft ground engineer.
I am not one of the ex-RAF know-it-alls but am fairly confident of my engineering abilites and have my first two module exams next month.
Any advice anyone can hand out will be well recieved.
Best regards
I am after a wee bit of advice reference CAA giving credits against modules for ex-forces.
Not knowing much about the previous lisence and the credits they used to give, I have heard a rumour they 'may' be considering this again.
I e-mailed the CAA weeks ago and have had nothing back since, is this a common problem with them?
For the record I did a three year apprenticeship in airframes and propulsion and have been 'in' for 21 years with experince on Buccaneers, Hunters, Tornado and the last 6 on Nimrods as an aircraft ground engineer.
I am not one of the ex-RAF know-it-alls but am fairly confident of my engineering abilites and have my first two module exams next month.
Any advice anyone can hand out will be well recieved.
Best regards
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From the CAA website
Skilled Workers, Armed Forces, Non-EU Applicants
What credits can ex-military aircraft engineers get towards obtaining the Part-66 licence?
There are currently no credits available towards the Part-66 module exams. However, authenticated engineering experience on operational aircraft will be counted towards the overall experience requirement. A minimum of 1 years experience is required on civil operating aircraft relevant to the category or sub-category of licence you are applying for.
Skilled Workers, Armed Forces, Non-EU Applicants
What credits can ex-military aircraft engineers get towards obtaining the Part-66 licence?
There are currently no credits available towards the Part-66 module exams. However, authenticated engineering experience on operational aircraft will be counted towards the overall experience requirement. A minimum of 1 years experience is required on civil operating aircraft relevant to the category or sub-category of licence you are applying for.
Its highly unlikely there will be any future exemptions for Forces training etc (as this is not now down to the CAA but EASA)
Previously under Section L, the CAA only had to satisfy itself that UK forces training met a required standard. Now, EASA has to consider every country involved and differing standards obviously exist making it a nightmare to dealk with!
Thats not to say that differing standards existed prior to the introduction of Part 66 Licences across EASA States!
Previously under Section L, the CAA only had to satisfy itself that UK forces training met a required standard. Now, EASA has to consider every country involved and differing standards obviously exist making it a nightmare to dealk with!
Thats not to say that differing standards existed prior to the introduction of Part 66 Licences across EASA States!
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