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Originally Posted by pacificmarlin
Good info guys - thanks.
Chula - are you with QR? they tried to get me to Syd for interview, but I was working, so they organised a phone int.
Deal I heard was 11K US + accom & schooling allow + 3 wks to super.
Still waiting to see in writing as apparently a couple of years back they renegged on deal offer.
I heard about the passport thing -not to comfortable with that.
As for Human factors/Health & Safety and working environment, sounds the same as in the Pacific - you do what you have to with the resourses available in 95% humidity.
Training is offered on commencement and the idea of gaining an EASA Lic can only be a bonus for future employment.
Lack of communication and recognition is not something which is isolated to QR - be honest.
If the package is dinkum, it would be hard to refuse.
Chula - are you with QR? they tried to get me to Syd for interview, but I was working, so they organised a phone int.
Deal I heard was 11K US + accom & schooling allow + 3 wks to super.
Still waiting to see in writing as apparently a couple of years back they renegged on deal offer.
I heard about the passport thing -not to comfortable with that.
As for Human factors/Health & Safety and working environment, sounds the same as in the Pacific - you do what you have to with the resourses available in 95% humidity.
Training is offered on commencement and the idea of gaining an EASA Lic can only be a bonus for future employment.
Lack of communication and recognition is not something which is isolated to QR - be honest.
If the package is dinkum, it would be hard to refuse.
I did work for QR for five months ,
well try it out if u know what pacific is all about if u know some one over there it will more the reason u should watch it,pls dont sign any rolling bonds which has no meaning. if an engineer cannot get his authority during a certain time period thats the responsibility of the manager.not for u to sign a bond to effect such as interpretation can be effected as per the situation .if the package is good take it ? beleive me when u join it is very plasant and they will tell u any problem ppls feel free to come if u have a problem when u go with the problem, thats where the real problem starts,pls dont take any training without seeing the bond read it carefully, authoristion depends on the company.working conditions on the ramp is similar to a labour job at the road side.logistics r zero, when u join they will give u one type authority and tell u to work for 6 hours on 10 airplanes and some times u have to the mechs work also as they have a tremendus scarecity of mechs and on u r off day u r suppose to cover a flight for the remaining hours if u agree with by all means moneys worth, this is one faction of so many misgivings.
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Sonhouse, I clearly posted "up to 35000 .... for the right people".
I also let people know that that was a verbal from the recruitment reps.
Also said I'd have to wait for the offers to come out in writing.
What makes you think that I haven't applied for a position?
Embelishing is the same as lying.
I also let people know that that was a verbal from the recruitment reps.
Also said I'd have to wait for the offers to come out in writing.
What makes you think that I haven't applied for a position?
Embelishing is the same as lying.
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sonhouse the elections are over,get over your loss the membership have spoken and you and your d!ckhead mates are GONE,as for embelishing the truth,what is it you done with HM in the last EBA,but told lies in relations to overtime bank and severals other issues,you can not lie straight in bed,in fact i'd say you are sleeping in the fetal position these days thinking about how your carrer path has slipped from your hands
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Take it somewhere else guys! 
Just had PM from ex employee who just left.
Reckons the total (incl add ons) package is only 18000 QR's a month and there ain't much left.
How can they make an offer (yet to be seen) that is so far above current employee rates? Or how can they make a bull**** offer and then reneg on it?
Many questions to be answered before this bunny moves.
The contract mentioned was open ended and re EASA licence - it was mentioned that it would be expected for you to get one - just as here I had to pick up a kiwi one as we work under their regs.
PS Caught 2 Blue and 1 Black Marlin in 4 hours on Wed.
Just had PM from ex employee who just left.
Reckons the total (incl add ons) package is only 18000 QR's a month and there ain't much left.
How can they make an offer (yet to be seen) that is so far above current employee rates? Or how can they make a bull**** offer and then reneg on it?
Many questions to be answered before this bunny moves.
The contract mentioned was open ended and re EASA licence - it was mentioned that it would be expected for you to get one - just as here I had to pick up a kiwi one as we work under their regs.
PS Caught 2 Blue and 1 Black Marlin in 4 hours on Wed.
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don't get all worked up over that Passport thing.. use some common sense guys.. a passport belongs to the issueing country of the holder.. not the holder itself, athough it his/her responsability over the document.. so don't listen to the crap.. no one keeps your passport over here.. yes they do take it for sometime to do admin stuff.. your left with a photo copy for a week or so.. but you MUST have a RP ( Residense Permit ) stamped in your passport and MUST be able to show it on demand.. also when you do simple things like buy a car.. mobile conection, bank account and the like.... but.. i have to say.. who ever thought that one up.. nice imagination guy.. but time to wake up now..
workin here is a but tough.. and certainly not like other developed countries.. althought i'm in the profession of breakin the machine and not fixin it.. it's a bit of a cooler job for me.. meaning .. i'm not walking from machine to machine in 50 degree heat for 12hrs at a time.. but I do have friends working the wrench.. and you really work over here.. like all staff.. due to expantion and new aircraft arrivals on a monthly basis.. all departments are streached to the limits.. stress is high.. work load is heavy and unforgiving.. and there is vertually no graditude for good job done.. but at the end of the day it's all your choise and up to you how you want your life to be...
I have been here for quite some time now.. and although not easy in the begining.. it's much better now.... ( when in Rome syndrome).. rememeber also.. things are constantly changing over here.. some for the better and some not.. but never remains the same..
Cheers
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workin here is a but tough.. and certainly not like other developed countries.. althought i'm in the profession of breakin the machine and not fixin it.. it's a bit of a cooler job for me.. meaning .. i'm not walking from machine to machine in 50 degree heat for 12hrs at a time.. but I do have friends working the wrench.. and you really work over here.. like all staff.. due to expantion and new aircraft arrivals on a monthly basis.. all departments are streached to the limits.. stress is high.. work load is heavy and unforgiving.. and there is vertually no graditude for good job done.. but at the end of the day it's all your choise and up to you how you want your life to be...
I have been here for quite some time now.. and although not easy in the begining.. it's much better now.... ( when in Rome syndrome).. rememeber also.. things are constantly changing over here.. some for the better and some not.. but never remains the same..
Cheers
CK
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Thanks CK,
Way I see it is: What I do is the same where ever in the world i am.
Corporate pressure is the same, the only difference is the weather and what I'm getting paid.
The more the money - the happier the pig.
Hopefully we will see replies and packages soon and with that the truth will come out.
CK - Do you leave the country on days off? Do they restict your travel?
Do you know of people who base their families in Europe and commute?
Good replies guys
Way I see it is: What I do is the same where ever in the world i am.
Corporate pressure is the same, the only difference is the weather and what I'm getting paid.
The more the money - the happier the pig.
Hopefully we will see replies and packages soon and with that the truth will come out.
CK - Do you leave the country on days off? Do they restict your travel?
Do you know of people who base their families in Europe and commute?
Good replies guys
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well I can only truly answer your question from my point of veiw, and that comes from someone who is sitting in the pointy end of the aircraft.. breaking it not fixing it..
so the answer is NO.. you cannot expect to commute.. many of the jet jocks are trying ... but rosters do not accomidate one who commutes.. as for travel.. well. when your OFF .. your OFF.. the time is yours.. you do need an Exit Permit to leave the country.. but for us Jet Jocks.. we can apply and buy Multi-Exit permits valid for 1 year.. come and go as we please as many times as we like..
not sure about a Ground Wrench though.. I do know Cabin crew have to apply for every exit permit.. although there is not problem with granting them.. just takes time.. couple of days to process..
hope this helps
CK
so the answer is NO.. you cannot expect to commute.. many of the jet jocks are trying ... but rosters do not accomidate one who commutes.. as for travel.. well. when your OFF .. your OFF.. the time is yours.. you do need an Exit Permit to leave the country.. but for us Jet Jocks.. we can apply and buy Multi-Exit permits valid for 1 year.. come and go as we please as many times as we like..
not sure about a Ground Wrench though.. I do know Cabin crew have to apply for every exit permit.. although there is not problem with granting them.. just takes time.. couple of days to process..
hope this helps
CK
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Yes mate if u can get into amiri flight as a flying spanner u will probably enjoy u r stay in doha .but remeber quality assurance and ceo is the same for both but there is a seperate head who is responsible it is not so bad one month on ground one month on flying duty so it is a pretty fair deal,but remember to ask for a company accomadation or housing allowance in excess of 8000 riyals per month otherwise boy u will not be able to survive cheers mate have good day
Originally Posted by Bolty McBolt
I checked my conversion rates
QATAR use "rials" for currency.
Saudi uses "Riyals"
Sunday, July 23, 2006
35,000 Qatari Rial = 12,885.6 Australian Dollar
12,885.6 AUD = 9664.20 US Dollars
Median price = 0.36240 / 0.36816 (bid/ask)
Estimated price based on daily US dollar rates.
Chula. Thanks for the info. I have heard your story repeated by other engineers whom have ended up in Qatar.The worst part of the deal was, as you approach the end of your contract and you have amassed some sort of bonus payment that is in your contract, the management do their level best to upset you enough to get you to quit thus vioding the payment of your bonus etc etc
The Amiry royal flight looks the pick of the jobs if you can land a travelling spanner. At least you get off the island regularly.
Pacific Marlin. Qatar's job web site only requies ICAO type 2 licence with no mention of EASA. Can you tell us more?
QATAR want over 100 odd LAEs, they will have to offer good coin to get them
MAS have a huge add in Friday's "Australian" newspaper looking for lots of LAE/LAMEs
Does anybody have details on what they are offering.
QATAR use "rials" for currency.
Saudi uses "Riyals"
Sunday, July 23, 2006
35,000 Qatari Rial = 12,885.6 Australian Dollar
12,885.6 AUD = 9664.20 US Dollars
Median price = 0.36240 / 0.36816 (bid/ask)
Estimated price based on daily US dollar rates.
Chula. Thanks for the info. I have heard your story repeated by other engineers whom have ended up in Qatar.The worst part of the deal was, as you approach the end of your contract and you have amassed some sort of bonus payment that is in your contract, the management do their level best to upset you enough to get you to quit thus vioding the payment of your bonus etc etc
The Amiry royal flight looks the pick of the jobs if you can land a travelling spanner. At least you get off the island regularly.
Pacific Marlin. Qatar's job web site only requies ICAO type 2 licence with no mention of EASA. Can you tell us more?
QATAR want over 100 odd LAEs, they will have to offer good coin to get them
MAS have a huge add in Friday's "Australian" newspaper looking for lots of LAE/LAMEs
Does anybody have details on what they are offering.
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Why do you guy's not listen.
KEEP AWAY
AMIRI or the mainline its the same they tell you lies. Still if you're from down under anything is good you've managed to kill aviation in you're country now let's do the rest of the world.
Do you honestly think they are going to pay you the money being bandied around in this post. Get real with Aussies clambering to get out and the redundancy's there being offerred you stand no chance of negotiating anything.
KEEP AWAY
AMIRI or the mainline its the same they tell you lies. Still if you're from down under anything is good you've managed to kill aviation in you're country now let's do the rest of the world.
Do you honestly think they are going to pay you the money being bandied around in this post. Get real with Aussies clambering to get out and the redundancy's there being offerred you stand no chance of negotiating anything.
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MAS owe money to everyone. Have recently sacked a huge proportion of their staff.
A question I was asked is How much are they paying for these permanent postions and where are they getting the money from and how much job security would you have?
Anybody in the know?
A question I was asked is How much are they paying for these permanent postions and where are they getting the money from and how much job security would you have?
Anybody in the know?
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Looks like not a lot has changed in Qatar since I did my interview way back in 1996. I was young and single then and the complete lack of woman visible in Doha 
and the very low salary they offered me made me run away.
People I know who have worked in Qatar since have all left within two years of starting and had not much good to say regarding their experience.
and the very low salary they offered me made me run away.People I know who have worked in Qatar since have all left within two years of starting and had not much good to say regarding their experience.
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hi do u mind sharing some tread did u go tru an agency is it short term if so i dont mind poping in for a short while hope u dont mind me being so blunt cheers rgds
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MAS are offering $37 $US per hour.Minimum 162 hrs p/month. No other allowances added on top of this rate.
That was what I was offered. I couldn't be bothered uprooting family etc for this amount so I knocked it back.
That was what I was offered. I couldn't be bothered uprooting family etc for this amount so I knocked it back.
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Not Likely !!
If that figure is correct,who in their right mind would leave a stable country,possibly stable employment to put up with all the rubbish that all airline managers throw at you as a LAE.At todays conversion rate,that is only 3000 pommy pounds,5700 greenback,4500 Euros or 7500 Aussie pesos per month.
I guess that the Qatar management aren't serious in looking for qualified labour to help build their airline,because for that sort of dough,I could stay in my home country and probably work as a salesperson or labourer for that kind of cash.And not work shift work,or take the responsibility for signing maintenance releases.Yes,working on aircraft is an interesting profession,but not in one of the most volatile regions in the world at the moment,and not for that cash.Also,the licence coverage they are after is in such short supply,so the guys they may eventually get there will either be offered much more to join or will be on the run and need any cash possible.
Also most guys from western countries would have wives and partners who work either full or part time.I can't see this really attracting people even if it is tax-free.
Goodluck to those guys who do apply.
I guess that the Qatar management aren't serious in looking for qualified labour to help build their airline,because for that sort of dough,I could stay in my home country and probably work as a salesperson or labourer for that kind of cash.And not work shift work,or take the responsibility for signing maintenance releases.Yes,working on aircraft is an interesting profession,but not in one of the most volatile regions in the world at the moment,and not for that cash.Also,the licence coverage they are after is in such short supply,so the guys they may eventually get there will either be offered much more to join or will be on the run and need any cash possible.
Also most guys from western countries would have wives and partners who work either full or part time.I can't see this really attracting people even if it is tax-free.
Goodluck to those guys who do apply.
