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EDMO in the USA are listing new and second hand units in stock.
http://www.edmo.com/s12/s12-363b.asp
TB
http://www.edmo.com/s12/s12-363b.asp
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ASI , also in the US are listing one used for sale.
Use this form for more info
http://www.avionics-specialist.com/pform.html
Use this form for more info
http://www.avionics-specialist.com/pform.html
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Thanks for the replies. As a LAE i do a lot of radio checks on lots of permit aircraft and private machines. As you are all no doubt aware there is next to no money in this bracket and only manage to cover expenses (cheap lunch!) but i share the passion and enthusiasm that owners of these aircraft have. I like to think that in some small way i positivley benefit GA. With the prospect of equipment becoming redundant or out of date then it can be put to good use in non commercial areas. Just because it is out of date does not make it useless (a bit like myself!). It is great when an employer has state of the art kit that can be used outside of work but so tough and expensive when you no longer have access to it. I dont want to have to quit doing what i enjoy but finding it very hard and expensive to see any other way. shame realy as the only people that will loose out are the hard core aviation fans that are only just managing to fly and keep their heads above water with the help of sympathetic LAE like myself. It will be a sad day day when engineering help and support will cost mort than a cup of coffee.
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Hi Sparks
I went down this route myself a couple of years ago. I found I could get a second hand ATC600, NAV402 and VSWR test set for about 10K for the lot (All with recent calibrations).
I was considering starting up a small company with part time work initially but ultimately going full time. I had plenty of work offered to me including almost exclusive rights to avionics work at a reasonably sized aerodrome.
So why did I not continue with this venture and end up setting up an IT company instead?
One word INSURANCE, or two words actually LIABILITY INSURANCE. I found that this is grossly expensive and almost excludes the independent engineer from going into business. For example I can get £1,000,000 worth of cover for my IT business for not much more than £50 per annum. When I tried to get cover for the avionics business the quotes where of the orders of several thousands pounds per annum!
There was one glimmer of hope though. I eventually found a larger maintenance company that had no avionics personnel themselves. They were happy for me to put the work through their books so I effectively became a contractor for them. The upside of this arrangement was that I was covered by their insurance. The downside was that of course they wanted a slice of the profits.
All in all the IT company seemed a better option and I am doing quite well out of it at the moment but it’s a sad reflection of our industry that after years of training, licences and experiences I am finding far easier and far less risky to make money out of computers than aeroplanes.
Good luck with you venture, if you need them I may still have the quotes for the test equipment around somewhere.
Regards
Max
And of course if you need any websites, custom programming, databases etc…..
I went down this route myself a couple of years ago. I found I could get a second hand ATC600, NAV402 and VSWR test set for about 10K for the lot (All with recent calibrations).
I was considering starting up a small company with part time work initially but ultimately going full time. I had plenty of work offered to me including almost exclusive rights to avionics work at a reasonably sized aerodrome.
So why did I not continue with this venture and end up setting up an IT company instead?
One word INSURANCE, or two words actually LIABILITY INSURANCE. I found that this is grossly expensive and almost excludes the independent engineer from going into business. For example I can get £1,000,000 worth of cover for my IT business for not much more than £50 per annum. When I tried to get cover for the avionics business the quotes where of the orders of several thousands pounds per annum!
There was one glimmer of hope though. I eventually found a larger maintenance company that had no avionics personnel themselves. They were happy for me to put the work through their books so I effectively became a contractor for them. The upside of this arrangement was that I was covered by their insurance. The downside was that of course they wanted a slice of the profits.
All in all the IT company seemed a better option and I am doing quite well out of it at the moment but it’s a sad reflection of our industry that after years of training, licences and experiences I am finding far easier and far less risky to make money out of computers than aeroplanes.
Good luck with you venture, if you need them I may still have the quotes for the test equipment around somewhere.
Regards
Max
And of course if you need any websites, custom programming, databases etc…..
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A big thanks to everybody that has replied so far. Was saddened to read you reply max and think it should be taken in context with comments on another thread on this forum. Read " what does it take to become an engineer?" and then read your reply. Makes a strong argument .