I Fly, I see your dilemma but don't see that there is a problem. Jeppesen produce a "Revision letter" with each amendment. So ask the candidate to produce this page which will confirm the date of issue.

You ask if Jeppesen know something AsA doesn't.....quite likely I would think:rolleyes:

The difference is that Jeppesen issue revisions every two weeks! Not at the leisurely AsA rate.

ICARUS2001, would you please be so kind and enlighten me regarding your statement.
I asked if Jeppesen know something AsA doesn't.....Your answer "quite likely I would think"
Where does Jeppesen get data from that is NOT FROM ASA.
Ozexpat, thanks. I do believe that if both crews have the same plate, it works. And in an airline environment both will have the same plate. The "Revision letter" with each amendment only states what has changed this revision. If a pilot forgot to file a revision 6 month ago it will not become apparent until the annual complete list arrives.
Item 16 on the test form requires 'Publications amended and complete' it's difficult with 2 different sets of documents. I've had mine for 22 years - I'm not about to purchase a second set just because someone would like me to.
It would be so simple if Jeppesen used the exact same dating methodology that the national authority uses. Or does Jeppesen dictate to all the other 'ASAs' around the world.

I Fly,

All Jepp revisions have a sequential number and there is an amendment record sheet in the front of the Jepps where you write in what date you did your amendments.

If you have just done revision 16 and then go to write that you've done that amendment you would very quickly see that the revision 15 box has not been dated and know that you have missed that revision.

......or get Jepview and forget about plate amendments.

Just make sure you have an extension lead long enough to plug your puter into when you find you dont have that plate you need.
(Bunnings sell a 40000km lead.)

Mack

I'm sure that Jeppesen would love to be able to dictate to the various publication authorities around the world. It would make their own tasks simpler. I deal with them quite a bit and can assure you that they don't dictate to the mob I represent.

Most publication authorities plan to produce 12 amendments per year, on the AIRAC cycle. This results in amendments about every 28 days. As Jeppesen produce amendments every 14 days, one sometimes has to wonder why.

One answer to this is the changes that aviation authorities notify by Class 1 Notam, while a replacement chart is being prepared. Another answer could be that the 14-day cycle allows Jepps to rectify any of their own errors rapidly.

But the chart date problem still exists. I'm wondering if it might be less confusing if the Jepp chart showed the effective date as it appears on the sponsoring chart (ie the chart produced by the relevant publication authority) as well as their own publication cycle date. Knowing a bit about the Jeppesen system, that idea is probably too hard to implement.

I fly it was a joke, can you see the rolling eyes.

CHECKERBOARD - I would have thought having been a moderator you may have used Jepps previously?

What are you up to these days??

Jepps do get their information from ASA. Where Jepps issue amendments every 2 weeks, ASA only do it (correct me if I'm wrong, it's been 10 years since I used AIP) every 6 months?

However, from memory, don't ASA issue interim (minor) amendments to DAPS to be handwritten on the plate between issues?

It's quite easy to check if your candidate is up-to-date. As Icarus and C&B wrote, there is Master amendment sheet in the front of part A which the owner should have completed on a fortnightly basis.

With each amendment comes the revision sheet which lists all replace/remove and destroy sheets. These should match what is contained in the owners document. All replacement plates issued since amendment 1 will be annotated on one of the revision sheets.

Once a year, Jeppesen issues a master list of every page and its correct date. You check off your document off against this (VERY time consuming). If you have any out of date pages, you advise Jeppesen and can arrange replacement of any out of date pages. Not sure if that come$ at a co$t or not :mad:

To put you at ease, many charts that are re-issued by Jeppesen are for reasonably minor changes such as narratives, etc. I think these are such items that would be either amended in the DAPS by hand amendment or NOTAM(?) On Jepps the reason for revision is listed at the bottom of the plate.

Generally Jepps are more up-to-date. But for the price, they ought to be :)