Looking for work overseas (US & Canada)
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Hey all,
Just after some information about working in the US or Canada. My sister currently lives in New York and has a green card. Does this help me at all?
Looking at doing some instructing so I will need to convert my licences to meet the FAA standards. I heard talk about a J1 visa which might allow me to work.
I know this topic almost appears daily on PPRune but so far all I have seen are people getting knocked back. Surely someone from Oz must be working in the US
Any leads would be great. Thanks for your time guys.
Just after some information about working in the US or Canada. My sister currently lives in New York and has a green card. Does this help me at all?
Looking at doing some instructing so I will need to convert my licences to meet the FAA standards. I heard talk about a J1 visa which might allow me to work.
I know this topic almost appears daily on PPRune but so far all I have seen are people getting knocked back. Surely someone from Oz must be working in the US
Any leads would be great. Thanks for your time guys.
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I am an Australian Citizen and a Canadian immigrant and have been here 6 months in the ATC biz. Canada has too many drivers (unless your rotary) but not enough controllers. The Aussie fixed wing guys here can find it hard to get good regular employment unless they have high jet hours.
Here is the Canadian Aviation Forum wchich is the local equivalent of PpruNe: http://www.theairlinewebsite.com/bbs/index.asp?forum=1
BTW your sister should be able to sponsor you for a green card no probs - might hear you on radio driving an UAL, AAL, NWA, or COA A320, MD80, B737 or B738 flight into the northern land???
Here is the Canadian Aviation Forum wchich is the local equivalent of PpruNe: http://www.theairlinewebsite.com/bbs/index.asp?forum=1
BTW your sister should be able to sponsor you for a green card no probs - might hear you on radio driving an UAL, AAL, NWA, or COA A320, MD80, B737 or B738 flight into the northern land???
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Thanks for the info "The Crimson Fruitbat".
"BTW your sister should be able to sponsor you for a green card no probs "
Can she do that? I thought only companies had this power. Might have to check this out. Thanks
Hope to speak to you in that big blue sky!
"BTW your sister should be able to sponsor you for a green card no probs "
Can she do that? I thought only companies had this power. Might have to check this out. Thanks
Hope to speak to you in that big blue sky!
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Yes she can digger!
Hmm,
Always a pleasure to support the insidious take over of Nth America by those dunnunda. Errol Flynn, Rod Taylor, Mel Gibson, Hugh Jackman, Heath Ledger, Rusell Crowe, Eric Bana, a swag of lovely ladies, a handful of air trafficers, and a coupla pilots...
From the Ins website ( http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/se...m#anchor365711 )
hope this helps
Always a pleasure to support the insidious take over of Nth America by those dunnunda. Errol Flynn, Rod Taylor, Mel Gibson, Hugh Jackman, Heath Ledger, Rusell Crowe, Eric Bana, a swag of lovely ladies, a handful of air trafficers, and a coupla pilots...
From the Ins website ( http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/se...m#anchor365711 )
Eligibility
To be eligible to sponsor a relative to immigrate to the United States you must meet the following criteria:
You must be a citizen or a lawful permanent resident of the United States and be able to provide documentation proving your status.
You must prove that you can support your relative at 125% above the mandated poverty line. Click here to find out more information about meeting this criteria and filing the Affidavit of Support.
If you are a US Citizen you may petition for the following foreign national relatives to immigrate to the United States; however you must be able to provide proof of the relationships:
Husband or wife;
Unmarried child under 21 years old;
Unmarried son or daughter over 21;
Married son or daughter of any age;
Brother or sister, if you are at least 21 years old; or
Parent, if you are at least 21 years old.
To be eligible to sponsor a relative to immigrate to the United States you must meet the following criteria:
You must be a citizen or a lawful permanent resident of the United States and be able to provide documentation proving your status.
You must prove that you can support your relative at 125% above the mandated poverty line. Click here to find out more information about meeting this criteria and filing the Affidavit of Support.
If you are a US Citizen you may petition for the following foreign national relatives to immigrate to the United States; however you must be able to provide proof of the relationships:
Husband or wife;
Unmarried child under 21 years old;
Unmarried son or daughter over 21;
Married son or daughter of any age;
Brother or sister, if you are at least 21 years old; or
Parent, if you are at least 21 years old.
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Hey The Crimson Fruitbat,
You are a legend!!! Thanks so much for your help!!! At last I have found some real, solid information about working in the US.
I guess all I need to do now is do the ever so long paper work.
Magic to say the least!
Many thanks again!!!
You are a legend!!! Thanks so much for your help!!! At last I have found some real, solid information about working in the US.
I guess all I need to do now is do the ever so long paper work.
Magic to say the least!
Many thanks again!!!
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One more question guys.
How do I transfer my Australian CPL over to the FAA standards? Will my instructor rating be valid over in the US??
Any information would be fantastic.
How do I transfer my Australian CPL over to the FAA standards? Will my instructor rating be valid over in the US??
Any information would be fantastic.
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Dear Hmmm..,
The FAA does not "validate" any foreign licences anymore. But fear not its not that hard. How it works is thus:
1. Medical
2. Comm exam
3. Flights test wioth FAA Examiner of airman.
Get an FAA Class 1 medical in OZ (lots of Drs here can do it - just ask CASA who your nearest is) b4 you go to save time. (They will issue it on the spot usually). It is a basic medical compared to the CASA, JAA or NZCAA ones.
You then need to sit your CPL theory (1 exam only) - there are excellent CD ROM base courses from ASA or King for around $ 100 AUD on the web. Its easy compared to the CASA, JAA etc.
Next go to the FAA office when you get to the US and they will give you a restricted PPL gratus. Any flight school in the USA will give you a couple of practice / famil flights in a Cessna etc and then you can do the flight test.
If you go there and do it all 2 weeks should do it. But beware at present there are zillions of unemployed US citizen pilots with experience and local knowledge. Try Florida perhaps, I know of a few Ozzies & Kiwis who have gone to big schools there (ie Comair etc) and done the CPL, CFI & IR tickets and scored a job on the student / ltd work Visa programme. They have all progressed onto regionals now and got their Green cards while instructing (takes some time and $$ though).
Good luck......
The FAA does not "validate" any foreign licences anymore. But fear not its not that hard. How it works is thus:
1. Medical
2. Comm exam
3. Flights test wioth FAA Examiner of airman.
Get an FAA Class 1 medical in OZ (lots of Drs here can do it - just ask CASA who your nearest is) b4 you go to save time. (They will issue it on the spot usually). It is a basic medical compared to the CASA, JAA or NZCAA ones.
You then need to sit your CPL theory (1 exam only) - there are excellent CD ROM base courses from ASA or King for around $ 100 AUD on the web. Its easy compared to the CASA, JAA etc.
Next go to the FAA office when you get to the US and they will give you a restricted PPL gratus. Any flight school in the USA will give you a couple of practice / famil flights in a Cessna etc and then you can do the flight test.
If you go there and do it all 2 weeks should do it. But beware at present there are zillions of unemployed US citizen pilots with experience and local knowledge. Try Florida perhaps, I know of a few Ozzies & Kiwis who have gone to big schools there (ie Comair etc) and done the CPL, CFI & IR tickets and scored a job on the student / ltd work Visa programme. They have all progressed onto regionals now and got their Green cards while instructing (takes some time and $$ though).
Good luck......
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Flygringo,
A querie of your knowledge files if I may...
I currently have a US FAA CPL that I picked up on a trip some ten years back on a flying visit to the US. It is of course marked 'Restricted use' in this case meaning that I am not to use it for commercial work.
As I understand it since that time the FAR's have changed so that if I was now to take my OZ CPL to the USA all I would get would be a PPL.
I am thinking of visiting the USA later this year and would like to have some OZ ratings added to my 'restricted use' US/FAA CPL which I must say has never been solo flown on.
My reading of the FAR's indicates that FAR 61-75 says I cannot be issued with a US PPL if I already hold a US Airmans Certificate (or licence).
All I am seeking is my US licence with the extra OZ ratings added. Yours thoughts on the likelyhood of that happening or do I just get knocked down to PPL status??
Your thoughts please.
A querie of your knowledge files if I may...
I currently have a US FAA CPL that I picked up on a trip some ten years back on a flying visit to the US. It is of course marked 'Restricted use' in this case meaning that I am not to use it for commercial work.
As I understand it since that time the FAR's have changed so that if I was now to take my OZ CPL to the USA all I would get would be a PPL.
I am thinking of visiting the USA later this year and would like to have some OZ ratings added to my 'restricted use' US/FAA CPL which I must say has never been solo flown on.
My reading of the FAR's indicates that FAR 61-75 says I cannot be issued with a US PPL if I already hold a US Airmans Certificate (or licence).
All I am seeking is my US licence with the extra OZ ratings added. Yours thoughts on the likelyhood of that happening or do I just get knocked down to PPL status??
Your thoughts please.
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Dear Curtis Jenny,
I am afraid I'm no expert on the subject; the FAA website will allow you to email an FAA regional office near to the area you a are visiting there. I have found them very helpful in the past, and yes the FAR's do change.
However I can say that for heavier types (in my case it was a B737 300) the FAA required a checkride b4 a type rating was issued. This can be a hassle as many simulator schools want to charge you for allot more than just a checkride (often they spin you a line, saying it can't be done and that you need a full US type rating course - Not so according to the FAA!).
I'm not sure about lighties but I was told that its a checkride on type with a "CFI" b4 the FAA issues the endorsement - and lets face it, no GA outfit is going to let you lose without a check flight anyway.
And yes you may well be dropped down to PPL restricted these days, I was gonna get the restricted CPL when I was there in 1996 but left it a few years and the PPL was all I got - Buggar!
Good luck!
I am afraid I'm no expert on the subject; the FAA website will allow you to email an FAA regional office near to the area you a are visiting there. I have found them very helpful in the past, and yes the FAR's do change.
However I can say that for heavier types (in my case it was a B737 300) the FAA required a checkride b4 a type rating was issued. This can be a hassle as many simulator schools want to charge you for allot more than just a checkride (often they spin you a line, saying it can't be done and that you need a full US type rating course - Not so according to the FAA!).
I'm not sure about lighties but I was told that its a checkride on type with a "CFI" b4 the FAA issues the endorsement - and lets face it, no GA outfit is going to let you lose without a check flight anyway.
And yes you may well be dropped down to PPL restricted these days, I was gonna get the restricted CPL when I was there in 1996 but left it a few years and the PPL was all I got - Buggar!
Good luck!
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Thanks Flygringo. Information was great. Was looking at FL as my main objective, weather is pretty damn good.
After I sit my CPL theory and have my medical I can get a PPL (r). I then have to sit a flight test to get my US CPL? Is there an restrictions or is it the same as the OZ CPL. Also what about my instructor rating? Can I transfer that?
CurtissJenny:
I couldn't quite understand this. You did all this work to get a FAA CPL and you can't use it to work?
Thanks again guys for all your help.
After I sit my CPL theory and have my medical I can get a PPL (r). I then have to sit a flight test to get my US CPL? Is there an restrictions or is it the same as the OZ CPL. Also what about my instructor rating? Can I transfer that?
CurtissJenny:
It is of course marked 'Restricted use' in this case meaning that I am not to use it for commercial work.
Thanks again guys for all your help.
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Hmmm...
I am aware that the US FAR's have changed since I got my OZ / FAA CPL conversion licence/certificate however in that time, 10 years ago, the 'Restricted Use' was, as I understood it, a visual restriction on the licence to ensure that the holder did not try and get a job in the US of A without a working visa or green card.
Flygringo was correct in that, just like Australia, you can get a licence in the US but no self repecting GA operation would hire you an aircraft, even out in the sticks, without a checkout to see that, regardless of your licence or logbook, you could actually fly an 'airplane'.
The same situation applies to our American friends when they come to Australia.
I am aware that the US FAR's have changed since I got my OZ / FAA CPL conversion licence/certificate however in that time, 10 years ago, the 'Restricted Use' was, as I understood it, a visual restriction on the licence to ensure that the holder did not try and get a job in the US of A without a working visa or green card.
Flygringo was correct in that, just like Australia, you can get a licence in the US but no self repecting GA operation would hire you an aircraft, even out in the sticks, without a checkout to see that, regardless of your licence or logbook, you could actually fly an 'airplane'.
The same situation applies to our American friends when they come to Australia.
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Hmmm...
I am aware that the US FAR's have changed since I got my OZ / FAA CPL conversion licence/certificate however in that time, 10 years ago, the 'Restricted Use' was, as I understood it, a visual restriction on the licence to ensure that the holder did not try and get a job in the US of A without a working visa or green card.
Flygringo was correct in that, just like Australia, you can get a licence in the US but no self repecting GA operation would hire you an aircraft, even out in the sticks, without a checkout to see that, regardless of your licence or logbook, you could actually fly an 'airplane'.
The same situation applies to our American friends when they come to Australia.
I am aware that the US FAR's have changed since I got my OZ / FAA CPL conversion licence/certificate however in that time, 10 years ago, the 'Restricted Use' was, as I understood it, a visual restriction on the licence to ensure that the holder did not try and get a job in the US of A without a working visa or green card.
Flygringo was correct in that, just like Australia, you can get a licence in the US but no self repecting GA operation would hire you an aircraft, even out in the sticks, without a checkout to see that, regardless of your licence or logbook, you could actually fly an 'airplane'.
The same situation applies to our American friends when they come to Australia.
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Thanks guys!
CurtissJenny thanks for clearing that up, I understand it now.
I will be able to get a green card so wouldn't that restriction be removed?
Also does anyone know of any good schools in the US?
Still trying to work it all out. Seems like a big move and a lot involved to transfer all my CASA licence's across. Work is tight everywhere at present so it might be best to stay put. Any suggestions?
Thanks guys
CurtissJenny thanks for clearing that up, I understand it now.
I will be able to get a green card so wouldn't that restriction be removed?
Also does anyone know of any good schools in the US?
Still trying to work it all out. Seems like a big move and a lot involved to transfer all my CASA licence's across. Work is tight everywhere at present so it might be best to stay put. Any suggestions?
Thanks guys
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Can anyone help with this one?
Good Topic ...
With regards to the above and noted , is there any legal requirement if I want to go to Canada and get a float-plane endorsement??
Where else and who can I contact with regards to this?
Take it Easy ...
With regards to the above and noted , is there any legal requirement if I want to go to Canada and get a float-plane endorsement??
Where else and who can I contact with regards to this?
Take it Easy ...
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I have both US and ozzie licenses...did the conversion thingie you're trying to do. Be prepared to fork out a lot of money. Depending on which FAA office you talk to. You may have to do up to 20 hours of multi time to convert because you have to meet the FAR 61 hour requirements. These are extensive and chances are you've done most of it but probably not all. I'm not sure you'll be able to convert that instructor's rating....it's highly unlikely though. On top of that work here isn't too crash hot although for an instructor job you should find one of those pretty easily. Sorry to be of little encouragement, but I'll give you more detailed info if you want.
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Thanks guys!
Druglord being one that has done the entire process I guess you would know better then anyone. What was the total cost, minus the 20 hrs twin to convert your licence? Just need a ball park figure to make a decision.
Really? Chances of getting work as an instructor are pretty good? Get me a booking on the next plane! Is that because of the amount of students or is it because the US is lacking instructors?
Very interesting! Thanks for the info druglord.
Druglord being one that has done the entire process I guess you would know better then anyone. What was the total cost, minus the 20 hrs twin to convert your licence? Just need a ball park figure to make a decision.
an instructor job you should find one of those pretty easily
Is that because of the amount of students or is it because the US is lacking instructors? Very interesting! Thanks for the info druglord.
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Ok...here's the deal:
First of all you may want to check into a school that does this sort of thing on a regular basis. There's one near Flightsafety in Vero Beach FLorida...but I can't remember it's name. Flightsafetly doesn't do that sort of thing unfortunately. This is what I had to do. First get a FAA medical. I would wait till i'm over here though. It was a real balls-up trying to get the paperwork from oz to the US. Here they'll hand it to you over the counter. Costs about $100. Next you'll want to buy the gleim red books as they're known. Check out www.gleim.com I think. Study up for the comm and instrument rating. easy peasy cf to oz. You should be able to buy these for $25US each. It may be better to check out the KING courses though to familiarise with US procedures/rules etc. Next you'll need to go down to a US FSDO. The flight school should organise this for you. You'll get a private FAA license. Then the expensive part: For a commercial Multi-engine...you'll need from memory:
20 hours of multi with an FAA instructor ...of which include
10 hours of instrument time
a night cross country greater than 100nm
a cross country greater than 300nm with at least 2 stops
10 takeoffs and landing at an airport with a control tower
...and few others I forgot..check out www.faa.gov for details
Then or before this you'll need to get an instrument rating flight also. Most of the above requirements should satisfy these though. I paid about $4000US Hope this helps. SHould be easy getting work though. I walked into a school and said I was a pilot and they handed me an application for immediately...I don't have an instructors ticket though. anyway hope it helps. Let me know if you need more info.
First of all you may want to check into a school that does this sort of thing on a regular basis. There's one near Flightsafety in Vero Beach FLorida...but I can't remember it's name. Flightsafetly doesn't do that sort of thing unfortunately. This is what I had to do. First get a FAA medical. I would wait till i'm over here though. It was a real balls-up trying to get the paperwork from oz to the US. Here they'll hand it to you over the counter. Costs about $100. Next you'll want to buy the gleim red books as they're known. Check out www.gleim.com I think. Study up for the comm and instrument rating. easy peasy cf to oz. You should be able to buy these for $25US each. It may be better to check out the KING courses though to familiarise with US procedures/rules etc. Next you'll need to go down to a US FSDO. The flight school should organise this for you. You'll get a private FAA license. Then the expensive part: For a commercial Multi-engine...you'll need from memory:
20 hours of multi with an FAA instructor ...of which include
10 hours of instrument time
a night cross country greater than 100nm
a cross country greater than 300nm with at least 2 stops
10 takeoffs and landing at an airport with a control tower
...and few others I forgot..check out www.faa.gov for details
Then or before this you'll need to get an instrument rating flight also. Most of the above requirements should satisfy these though. I paid about $4000US Hope this helps. SHould be easy getting work though. I walked into a school and said I was a pilot and they handed me an application for immediately...I don't have an instructors ticket though. anyway hope it helps. Let me know if you need more info.
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Has anybody got any experience converting an Australian ATPL to an FAA ATPL? Also, anybody have any idea how difficult it is to land an airline job if you have previous airline experience? Any info appreciated...
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NB - Work permits are employer specific (ie non transferable)
- They cost a few thousand and take a few months to get
- No US employer I know of would sponsor a foreigner,
especially at the moment!
"Right of abode" a'la UK does not exist, there is either a Work visa, a student visa or permanent residence (the "green card").
The only real "back door" is to go to a big school like "Comair" etc and do your licences & a "CFI" ticket, then angle for an instructing job. Many big schools can get you a combined study / work experience type visa so you can build up some US time and industry contacts legally. Then try using one of these contacts as a sponsor............ Anyone who thinks they can apply against US citizens without a green card is dreaming! (You could always go to a bar with a few bucks and head for the ugly tree!).
As for converting an OZ ATPL - try reading my previous posts in this topic. There is no such thing as a "conversion" in the US now. You must do the theory exam, medical and flight test.
Things are still ******ed airline wise but it is turning around slowly. Instructing jobs seem to be around from time to time.
- They cost a few thousand and take a few months to get
- No US employer I know of would sponsor a foreigner,
especially at the moment!
"Right of abode" a'la UK does not exist, there is either a Work visa, a student visa or permanent residence (the "green card").
The only real "back door" is to go to a big school like "Comair" etc and do your licences & a "CFI" ticket, then angle for an instructing job. Many big schools can get you a combined study / work experience type visa so you can build up some US time and industry contacts legally. Then try using one of these contacts as a sponsor............ Anyone who thinks they can apply against US citizens without a green card is dreaming! (You could always go to a bar with a few bucks and head for the ugly tree!).
As for converting an OZ ATPL - try reading my previous posts in this topic. There is no such thing as a "conversion" in the US now. You must do the theory exam, medical and flight test.
Things are still ******ed airline wise but it is turning around slowly. Instructing jobs seem to be around from time to time.