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Old 24th Apr 2002, 22:45
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Sharing the same sentiment...

It kinda puts all of today's crap in perspective doesn't it?
The industry and society in which we are involved takes so much for granted, its seems obsessed with RIGHTS but mentions little of RESPONSIBILITY. Having served quite a few years in the peacetime armed forces, I understand the mateship that lingers beyond the years, but I often wonder whether those fella worry whether or not all of it was in vain....

Japan the enemy, now a valued trading partner........
Germany an enemy, now a prolific exporter of motor vehicles!
Vietnam a great tourist destination....
An new airport in france over the Somme cemetry..

Inside 50 years everything has changed, it makes all the sacrifice and the wastage so pointless, and I feel it insults those buggas that shouldered the repsonsibility when it was asked of them, no matter which the conflict. I always remember an old mate who retired from the Army a Wo2, having been to Somalia, moved around the country side every two years at the whim of the SYSTEM....He told me of the pension entitlements....I guess I shouldn't be suprised a public serpant retires on twice as much!

One day, maybe we'll figure it out that the lucky country owes so much to relatively so few....

Cheers fellas, who's for two up!



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It is the fact that the children of our enemies are now our freinds that makes the sacrifice of so many worthwhile.

They died to end hatred and opresstion, and the fact that I can now number many people from countries we once fought with as work mates and freinds means they achieved just that.

It is places where the death of a patriot just fuels age old conflicts and condems the next generation to a lifetime of hatred that the fight is truely in vain.

Thank you to all the fallen on a job well done,

Rest in Peace
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Great first paragraph

"The industry and society in which we are involved takes so much for granted, its seems obsessed with RIGHTS but mentions little of RESPONSIBILITY. Having served quite a few years in the peacetime armed forces, I understand the mateship that lingers beyond the years, but I often wonder whether those fella worry whether or not all of it was in vain.... "

This is so true for everybody I feel. Aviation being one one them.

Never take anything for granted.
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I visited a family members grave in France, he was shot down in WW2. A sad day to realise the ultimate price paid and the future he (we all) missed, but filled with pride to know the level of devotion to his country (??).

This is the binder........the village in which he was buried (now a big city in provincial France) is a thriving German tourist destination, and no less - "a sister city to Munich!!!!" Go figure!! The beer was terrible the language was bearly understandable and here is this grave on foreign soil - light years from Australia.

Am I a disturbed at this- well at first, to be honest I was very angry and disillusioned at the waste, but not now. It vividly reinforces the absolute futility of War----Yeah, you betchya.

Anzac day, for me, is never a memory of war heroics, who won or lost, but the celebration of the human spirit under diversity. To go out and do what is expected - some of these people had an average survival span of only a few days - to go out to do what "they" believed to be the right thing by their family, mates, crew and country. All under incredible diversity and sacrafice. That goes for all sides.

Through the dice, bring on the cards and drink to their spirit.

Now where is that book on Nicky Barr...........
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