Australian Airlines crewed by ????
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Sea Eagle, your profile doesn't give much away but if you are a QF pilot (and AIPA member) then you can go to the AIPA website and have a look at it there.
If you are not then I'm sorry but it is unwise to release too many details yet.
Strobes, yes and no. Nothing signed as yet but lots of 'in principles' etc etc. Negotiations are continuing amicably with both sides expecting to reach a resolution within the next couple of months. I can't talk for Australian Airlines but I know that AIPA is pretty keen for it to be our guys at the front end but not at ANY cost.
We shall see....
(hopefully optimistic)
Keg
If you are not then I'm sorry but it is unwise to release too many details yet.
Strobes, yes and no. Nothing signed as yet but lots of 'in principles' etc etc. Negotiations are continuing amicably with both sides expecting to reach a resolution within the next couple of months. I can't talk for Australian Airlines but I know that AIPA is pretty keen for it to be our guys at the front end but not at ANY cost.
We shall see....
(hopefully optimistic)
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About 25-30 pilots needed incl. checkies for the first 4 B763.
Not to hard to find that from 2000+ QF guys esp. as they can come back after a few years. eg. early command, come back when QF command slot is avail.
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Not to hard to find that from 2000+ QF guys esp. as they can come back after a few years. eg. early command, come back when QF command slot is avail.
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AAP 12:36 AEST Wed 10 Apr 2002
New airline low-cost but not low-fare
Qantas Airways Ltd's new low-cost international airline, Australian Airlines, will not be a low-fare carrier nor compete head-to-head with its parent.
Australian Airlines chief executive officer Denis Adams said that while its cost base would be 30 per cent lower than Qantas, it would not be offering low fares to international passengers.
The new airline, owned by Qantas but independently managed out of a small corporate office of 15 staff in Cairns, will commence flying on October 27 with bookings open in May.
Mr Adams told a tourism industry breakfast in Brisbane that while the new carrier would be a party to the Qantas Frequent Flyer program, it would be restricted.
He said passengers would be able to burn points with Australian Airlines but the jury was still out as to whether or not they could earn them.
Access to the business passengers' Qantas Club lounge was also off limits to Australian Airlines passengers, in the interests of cost savings,
The Qantas offshoot was also confident of turning a "small profit" in its first year.
The airline's chief executive said today said that initially 90 per cent of Australian Airlines business would come from inbound international tourists.
He stressed that the airline was focused on the leisure market and would not have a business class.
He said as part of its deal with its parent, Australian Airlines would not compete directly with Qantas.
Like Qantas' domestic competitor Virgin Blue, Australian Airlines aimed to lower costs through simplifying its operation but still offering a full service operation.
"Virgin Blue is very well managed and is expert at managing its yields and we've got to be in the same business," Mr Adams said.
Mr Adams said that the airline would always be an international player, while aiming to service capital city ports in the future.
"We are not a domestic carrier, the only route we'll operate between Cairns and Coolangatta is for international passengers only," Mr Adams said.
The airline, with a 30 per cent lower cost base compared to the existing Qantas fleet, will fly out of Cairns using four Boeing 767-300s to six Asian destinations including Hong Kong and Singapore.
Australian Airlines's plan to achieve its 30 per cent reduction in costs includes offering only economy-class seats, resulting in an additional 40 seats per flight, compared with Qantas's regular passenger numbers on board an international 767 flight.
İAAP 2002
New airline low-cost but not low-fare
Qantas Airways Ltd's new low-cost international airline, Australian Airlines, will not be a low-fare carrier nor compete head-to-head with its parent.
Australian Airlines chief executive officer Denis Adams said that while its cost base would be 30 per cent lower than Qantas, it would not be offering low fares to international passengers.
The new airline, owned by Qantas but independently managed out of a small corporate office of 15 staff in Cairns, will commence flying on October 27 with bookings open in May.
Mr Adams told a tourism industry breakfast in Brisbane that while the new carrier would be a party to the Qantas Frequent Flyer program, it would be restricted.
He said passengers would be able to burn points with Australian Airlines but the jury was still out as to whether or not they could earn them.
Access to the business passengers' Qantas Club lounge was also off limits to Australian Airlines passengers, in the interests of cost savings,
The Qantas offshoot was also confident of turning a "small profit" in its first year.
The airline's chief executive said today said that initially 90 per cent of Australian Airlines business would come from inbound international tourists.
He stressed that the airline was focused on the leisure market and would not have a business class.
He said as part of its deal with its parent, Australian Airlines would not compete directly with Qantas.
Like Qantas' domestic competitor Virgin Blue, Australian Airlines aimed to lower costs through simplifying its operation but still offering a full service operation.
"Virgin Blue is very well managed and is expert at managing its yields and we've got to be in the same business," Mr Adams said.
Mr Adams said that the airline would always be an international player, while aiming to service capital city ports in the future.
"We are not a domestic carrier, the only route we'll operate between Cairns and Coolangatta is for international passengers only," Mr Adams said.
The airline, with a 30 per cent lower cost base compared to the existing Qantas fleet, will fly out of Cairns using four Boeing 767-300s to six Asian destinations including Hong Kong and Singapore.
Australian Airlines's plan to achieve its 30 per cent reduction in costs includes offering only economy-class seats, resulting in an additional 40 seats per flight, compared with Qantas's regular passenger numbers on board an international 767 flight.
İAAP 2002
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With over 5600 "views" seems like you have asked an interesting question.
Some really interesting stats comijng out with this new software.
In this case huge viewing low posting numbers.
Good luck to the new 'Australian' and all who sail in her.
Oooops Lloyds have now officially determined the used of gender for ships, they now become "it", I spose its now the same for aircraft.
With over 5600 "views" seems like you have asked an interesting question.
Some really interesting stats comijng out with this new software.
In this case huge viewing low posting numbers.
Good luck to the new 'Australian' and all who sail in her.
Oooops Lloyds have now officially determined the used of gender for ships, they now become "it", I spose its now the same for aircraft.
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Flight International (9 - 15 April, page 8) is reporting that:-
"Qantas 767 pilots will crew Australian's fleet, receiving Qantas pay rates but waiving various work practices and conditions, with some performance-related pay."
"Qantas 767 pilots will crew Australian's fleet, receiving Qantas pay rates but waiving various work practices and conditions, with some performance-related pay."
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cw & PD ref: Oz Airlines 767 fleet
The 6 B767s for the Oz Airlines fleet are coming from the existing QF fleet.
The current 228 seats 2-class configuration will be modified to 292 seats all economy. The 767-338s are VH-OGI and 5 others past that in the alphabetical sequence.
Regards
The current 228 seats 2-class configuration will be modified to 292 seats all economy. The 767-338s are VH-OGI and 5 others past that in the alphabetical sequence.
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Ford and Warning Star, couple of bits of goss that I heard was the 'tie' deal wasn't hard and fast. There will probably be a temperature attached to it. Doesn't seem too business like to turn up to Japan in the middle of winter without one although I'm hoping that my suggestion of a leather flying jacket for those same months is considered!
Whilst I've spoken to a mate in E&M who reckons that the rego's are allocated, I've spoken to other credible sources who reckon that they are not sure where the aircraft are coming from. If you have a look at the destinations, you could argue that about 2 1/2 aircraft will come from current routes. The others would require a reduction in service from other current (non Australian targeted) routes.
Ultimately, who knows. So many rumours, so few people who actually know whats going on. I guess thats why it's not called the Professional Pilots Absolute Truth Network!
Whilst I've spoken to a mate in E&M who reckons that the rego's are allocated, I've spoken to other credible sources who reckon that they are not sure where the aircraft are coming from. If you have a look at the destinations, you could argue that about 2 1/2 aircraft will come from current routes. The others would require a reduction in service from other current (non Australian targeted) routes.
Ultimately, who knows. So many rumours, so few people who actually know whats going on. I guess thats why it's not called the Professional Pilots Absolute Truth Network!
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G'day chuckles long time no hear, anyway just talked to a good friend here with AWAS for the inside track and even he with very tight lipped. Just remember the old saying never a truer word said in jest!!!!!
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