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Old 13th Sep 2001, 06:46
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During the playing of CNN - showing Palestinians celebrating the news of the kamikaze style crash - on QUT's large screen, a group of Middle East students also indicated their support for the terrorists' actions. Apparently this was not felt to be acceptable behaviour by other students, who physically "restrained" the Middle East group.

This type of herd mentality fanaticism seems to be less easily controlled by some cultures than by others.

Australia beware!
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A tip of the hat to those students who taught them a little lesson in manners, I hope the University does right by them.

 
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The time has come the Walrus said;

If this is Muticultural Australia I'm outa here.

On second thoughts they are out of here.

I thought refugees, migrants or whatever they choose to call themselves came to Oz for a better life. That includes accepting the sanctity of life, good natured style and culture which makes this country attractive.
If that's too hard they can go back from whence they came and try out their new found taste for tolerance, liberty and freedom there.

If they are studying on visas they should be revoked and don't recall a visa allowing political activism.
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At least your PM, who no doubt like everyone
else has his faults, has got the balls to
get out from behind the politically correct
facade and say a resounding NO to all these so called refugees. Not like ours,
who has no, not even figuratively speeking,
such appendages, and invited them here, for
I would hazard a guess, nothing more than a
bit of time on the international stage. We
certainly have not got the money to cover their costs for the forseeable future. We
have got to bail out Air New Zealand, who in
this bright new world of private enterprise
has run up a bill that is hard to believe.
Wonder who will get the next knighthood for
this brilliant piece of work
 
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Heard the same thing happened at a inner wentern suburbs Sydney primary school - (a bloody primary school!!!) yesterday.

- 'Australian' children of a Middle Eastern origin celebrating in the school grounds about the 'glorious victory' over the 'Great Satan' and refusing to enter the classrooms until the police were called.

If this report is true, along with the supposed celebrations in Lakema - and I sincerely hope they're not - it will be interesting to see if they are reported in our politically correct press.
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It is a sad society when children and adults alike are celebrating at the loss of innocent life. One must wonder if these children are growing up to be the next generation of fanatics?
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Hey prospector!

If she hasn't got balls, l'd be surprised.
She makes Jenny George sound like a 1900 call girl.

The knighthood goes to the entire NZ government who are going to help dig Air NZ out of the pile of poo that they and their board created.

l guess that money saved from not running an air force has come in handy. Just hope for your sakes that F111 & F/A18 nav systems haven't had 160 to 180 degrees East & 30 and 50 degrees South removed from their nav-systems!
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gaunty,

Agree with you 100%........

IF that makes me a Redneck or whatever, so be it.

While I would still welcome anyone that is prepared to fit in with the Australian way of life, this behaviour is just NOT on....

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"In the city of God, there will be great thunder. Two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb. The third big war will begin when the city is burning."

Interpretation -

In the city of God, there will be great thunder. Two brothers (the twin towers) torn apart by chaos, while the fortress (the Pentagon) endures, the great leader (George Bush) will succumb. The third big war (WW III) will begin when the city is burning".

Nostradamus - 1654

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I indeed feel that it is a sad time for most if not all. We live in these so-called "enlightened" times of tolerance and relative peace here in Oz. The thing that I find to be offensive is that if I were to get in my car and take a 20 minute drive to one of the more central suburbs of Sydney, pick just about ANY one you like, I would find teenagers and young people in their twenties etc hanging around at night in large groups in the middle of the street effectively blocking off the road with absolutely nothing of interest (for the most part) to say except "Skippy" or "Aussie C***" or whatever crude, foul or disgusting threats or things could for the most part eminate from their mouths. For some reason that makes me feel like a stranger in my own country, to see acts of blatant racism in that sort of manner.

Our proud country took as many "two bob tourists" as it could after WW2 so that we could start with as much "think tank" as we could when things settled down to build one of the most prosperous countries in the world. For all of our fore fathers effort we have many wonderful and diverse blends of cultures that could ever be envisaged. It has brought us wonderful cuisine, many different points of view and for the most part a harmonius existance. For that we can all be very proud of the efforts of everyone before us, but of course that also has a dark side which I believe is only just emerging now. This type of "reverse discrimination" has well and trully put-off most of us from accepting those who might well have been welcomed if things were different (ie; those "asylum seekers" as they have been labled). I, for one, cannot see the validity of people paying mega$$ for the priveledge of arriving into Australia's waters and then declaring an emergency, when for a heap less money, those who are more or less genuine could apply for even a tourist visa and the fly here and then apply for permanent residency. At least we would have looked at them on their merits and discarded any known trouble makers before they could set foot on our soil. That first method of arrival makes it all the more dangerous for us to accept any more. There are probably genuine ones amoung them, but their decision to flout the rules is not the kind of personality that we should be fostering here.

Who is to blame here? Is it us? Is it them? I, in all honesty cannot answer that, but it is my feeling that most of us have just had enough.

I really shouldn't have gotten off subject like that, but it is the bleeding heart mentality here that they are all fleeing lawlesness and that the courts should protect those who disregard the rules that gets up my nose.

These events of the past few days that have really rocked the western world to it's very foundation may well be the straw that broke the camels back. Do not think for one moment that this is the last we will hear of any of this.......

Eternal Vigilence.

Falls off soap-box here.......

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I was in a lecture 1 floor down from this 'occurance' when it broke out.

Apparently individuals of Arabic descent were snickering and showing (subdued) happiness at the footage of NY falling apart, only not subdued enough. I believe a number of good Aussie students took upon themselves to start the retribution. And it was severe enough to have the bulk of the Uni security needed to break it up.

Wish I was there actually. And not as a bystander...

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429CJ,

No, no, no......

That is NOT blatant racism. That is only the poor deprived downtroden refugees, that we have been depressing for years, finally being allowed their freedom of expression.

Blatant racism is you mentioning it......



Best regards,

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Maybe some of those refugees are trying to escape from the type of people who perpetrate thses sort of unspeakable acts...
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I hadn't read your replies until after my edit (about doubled the post!) guys, but thank-you.
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Nostradamus my a***! Nostradamus was just another loopy bull**** artist. You take a scenario & make it fit the prediction by severely bending or ignoring facets of said prediction. Besides, according to him we shouldn't be here now.
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I have a better prophecy for you:

Don't hurt other people - or you might get hurt too!

Interpretation:

You F--k with us and you'll regret it

Brian of Nazareth - Life of Brian 1979
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The sad fact is, that despite their leaders' doleful expressions of condolence, (which I believe in many cases is more self preservation than sincere), there will be quite a few people from that part of the world, when safely out of sight of the TV cameras, who will still be almost exultant in what has happened to the US.

To many from that part of the world, the US is perceived to be an overbearing bully. Unfortunately, when the US reprisals start, (as they will), no matter how restrained they are and how well documented the guilt of the targets may be, whatever the US does will only make them to be seen by many as an even bigger bully.

My main concern is that so many of the young (and not so young) people of Middle Eastern descent in Australia seem not to consider themselves to be Australian. Citizenship and the generous handouts so many of them receive is a two way street.

Surely if you move to another country, legally or illegally, you should want to become part of that country, not transplant a small slice of the problems and the hatreds you escaped from to an all too familiar ghetto you set up in it?
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Wiley, my point - exactly!
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My main concern is that so many of the young (and not so young) people of Middle Eastern descent in Australia seem not to consider themselves to be Australian.
Sorry, but this statement is a gross generalisation, commonly perceived by many of the older Anglo Australian generation.

What do you define as being Australian ? Playing Aussie Rules? Going to the pub? Can you elaborate?
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There is a great deal of difference between a statement and an observation. Perhaps you might question your own command of the english language, before making someone elses words out to mean something other than the way in which they were written.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to why you believe it to be only the domain of the older persons of "Anglo" descent, to hold this particular view. Your own words would imply a generalisation, would they not?

Think long and very hard before you answer. It has been discussed on many occaisions before (and only very recently here too) about a minority that have bitten the hand that has fed them, so to speak.

What is being Australian? Look around ya fella, there aint no steel bars or barbed wire holding you in, is there?
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