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Old 23rd Oct 2001, 13:56
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Question Hows the Job Scene In OZ?

Hi All,

Have been flying in Africa for the last 3 years, and thinking of coming back to this part of the world.
Anyone know of any work going flying in the bush, have approx 2500hrs on 206,210 etc in bush environment.

Any help would be much appreciated!!

Cheers, KF
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Old 23rd Oct 2001, 19:53
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I think there might be enough Oz flyers to go round at the moment.
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Kiwi Flyer. I can assure you it is worse than Botswana........!
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Kiwiflyer - its scary. At this point in time we have people with thousands and thousands of hours stepping up for jobs that the 200-1500 hr people used to fill.
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Haven't you heard via the village drums the message that it's gone pear shape real bad over here, and the industry is in a flat spin...
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Hey Kiwi..

sorry to "hijack" (oops bad choice of words) ya thread.. what are jobs like in Africa?

I want out... I want to fly...
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Kiwi,
I'm not in the office very much these days, (About twice a week), but in the past seven days I've chatted with three individuals with 3000 (1500 multi), 1500 (750 multi) and 2000 (200 multi) hours respectively who are all giving it in. Their new chosen careers are i) bricklaying for a relative's business, ii) starting own gardening business franchise and iii) another business venture, (wouldn't tell me what it was). The second bloke (1500 hours) moved to Darwin four months ago and has returned disgruntled.......need I say more?

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Old 24th Oct 2001, 15:54
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Not great at the moment, but it's got to come back again ,when that will be is anyones guess.You don't sound as if you have any multi time ? Try for at least 500 hours ,without which you will be at the bottom of a huge pile.

You could try for turbine experience as well ,which will help you really stand out.

When to make the move back depends on how badly you want to come home.You will be in the ,do I take the multi/turbine/airline job and stay on for an other two years , or go back to Oz and try my luck ? situation. All depends on what you want to do with your life. The longer you stay away the more difficult it will be to come back.If you get on a 737 overseas ,could you give it up to come back here with no job to go to ?

Difficult choice ,only you can make it.Good luck whatever you decide
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Kiwi
Don't give up the survey, the lifestyle and the search for adventure. I made that mistake 18 months back when I left bots (I remember talking to you about it at Maun a/p).
It took me another 12 months to scrape myself out of the cesspit of an industry in Oz.
I can't stress to you enough: DON'T DO IT! If however you do, DON'T BURN YOUR BRIDGES BACK IN BOTS!!
Cheers mate and happy decision making!
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Kiwi flyer give me an email, [email protected] , rip panties!
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Dear Pilots,

I am a 17 year old student about to finish my VCE and I am thinking about working as an airline pilot. I understand that I have to get my Commercial License first, but i was wondering what airlines I should apply to so that i dont have to fly smaller aeroplanes.

I would appreciate any replies,

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ARE YOU F#%!!NG SERIOUS LAD?!!!
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WINDUP!
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Old 25th Oct 2001, 10:46
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I believe airlines offer cadetships which are a way of avoiding the light aviation industry and I was wondering which airlines may be offering these cadetships at the moment.

Does anyone have any opinions on these cadetships?
 
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VOTZEBoy,
I considered answering the query with a similar question to yours, but will give the benefit of the doubt and answer thus...

The_Hun,

If you are just "thinking about becoming an airline pilot" then you will want to think very long and hard indeed.

The road is (usually) very long, very expensive, and very frustrating. And in the end when you have spent a large fortune there is absolutely no guarantee that you will get into the airlines. There are hundreds of highly qualified commercial pilots with a lot of experience trying to do the same thing.

You will have to fly "small aircraft" no matter what happens (probably for many years), so you will want to be comfortable with that idea. And while you are flying small aircraft, if you are lucky enough to land a job flying at all, you will be paid absolutely ****** all.

If you are fair dinkum, and absolutely difinitely want to be a pilot no matter what (rather than just thinking it sounds like a good idea at the time), then have a read of the thread "steps of becoming an airline pilot".

If after reading that, (and perhaps asking a few questions over there), you still want to do it, good luck to you.
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I like the pamphlet that says: "When you get your Commercial licence you will have to decide whether or not to a)JOIN the airlines
b)JOIN the airforce ......"

I think I might just go and JOIN up.....
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The good old casa booklet! Hmmmm

It's makes it sound so easy! First PPL, then CPL then either instructing or MECIR then on to light twin charter work or even "the regionals" What regionals? Then the creme de la creme....THE AIRLINES.

Then there are the various success stories!

Everyone must get a copy!
 
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Tubbs Farquhar
I see what you're getting at with regard to the other thread. However, do you realy think The_Hun needs to read much more than THIS thread? I think the industry is spelled out right here. Oh, and by the way, Hun. Don't expect to walk into a flying school anywhere and get the same vibe as this thread and others. A flying school will try and suck you into believing that the industry is full of promise. One long rainbow of adventure and eliteism, with a huge pot of gold at the end. Believe me, the only pot of gold is your bank ballance that will drain away very quickly indeed once you get started, with nothing but an empty 50 cent, 10 liter, plastic bucket at the end. Ya know, one of those cheap ones you buy from K-Mart.....
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OK folks
Before we laugh too hard and wet our dacks I have to tell of one young upstart with that same attitude I once knew who once said as we were drooling over the metros on line... QUOTE "It would be ok to fly one of those things for a first job, but not for long" the same guy got his first job sitting sideways in a 727 for Poly

However Hun, the road to the airlines is hard and long. You will feel like giving in the game more times than you would like to admit. There is the strongest compition out there, I mean who wouldn't want to be an airline pilot?? Big pay, lots of time off, big pay, nice office view, big pay, good conditions, oh and big pay. However, I think I speak for a lot of pilots out there
when I say that GA also has its plusses. You CANNOT do the kind of flying that you experience "in the bush" with an airline. You WILL NOT make the strong friends that you make in the small GA type outfits. But most of all you will miss out on the experience of a life time. Without dabbing at GA, how are you planning on "flying", cause the only kind of "Flying" you will experience in the majors is to take off, engage auto pilot, then drink loads of coffee while monitoring the systems.
Anyway good luck with your endevours
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Old 26th Oct 2001, 10:19
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Post from the Hun...definitely a wind-up, one with a message maybe.
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