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Old 26th Jul 2001, 23:52
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Post NZ MEIR Training

I have an IR but need an acft and A Cat Instructor to do 5 hours multi and sit the MEIR.
Straight fwd, but looking for the best deal.
Location is not important, just ca$h.

Ideas from those who have done it recently?

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Old 27th Jul 2001, 07:54
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www.ardmore.co.nz / 0800ARDMORE.
They have an A-cat, 2 Duchess's and a Simulator. Give em a call.

All the best!
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try Bay of Plenty Flight Centre

(07) 575 5795

approx ~ $270 per hour I think
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Miss Piggy will? Really?

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kavu - Thats not a bad price really is it? - What type of aircraft do they use?
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Bay of Plenty Flight Centre has a seneca for their training, $270 solo, $320 dual. They also have an A cat instructor
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Bonjour mrfish!!

How was the trip north??
i'd suggest using the Dutchess @ Ardmore.
Might come in handy later on!!

Let me know how you go.

Good luck
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Go the Ardmore Flying School way.


Call them 0800 ARDMORE or +64 9 2985055. or [email protected]

Warren (infamous Mr Sattler) is the A-cat.


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Curious G how on earth can a Duchess come in handy later on down the track? How many commercial operators use them? Can't think of any. At least with the Seneca you have Scott Air, Air Napier to name a couple in the middle of the north island. Duchess' are good trainers but honestly that is it.
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If you want a good A cat go to the Bay of Plenty Flight Centre in Tauranga, and tell him I sent you. He's head and shoulders above anything on offer at Ardmore - or anywhere else for that matter (except maybe me ...

Not sure about the $s tho' - but they won't be as expensive as Ardmore.
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If you really want the best deal. Call Tauranga Aeroclub, and ask for Harry Scott. He's retired now though does training on the side. He's got more experience and knowledge to pass on than all the instructors at chargemore flying school (bar 1) put together.
They use a cougar wich is only good for training, though is simple and cheaper than most options.
Wait till summer due wx, and plenty of gals on the beach. Best of all you'll have fun, save some $, and get a good quality IF Rating
If you do go the AR way try for a plane on airswitch.

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FLYREALFAST, excuse my ignorance but how on earth can 5 hrs in a Seneca be any better than 5 hrs in a Duchess, Seminole, whatever. They are all light twins! Mr Fish wanted a cheap MEIR, Curious G seems to know what he is on about. Wind your head in!
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I think there is also a crowd flying out of Whenuapai. Last I heard was $260 an hour for an Aztec - Id say thats solo tho.
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treholer, think about it ... do some simple wait and balace examples even or see how many 'operators' in the nz directory have senecas and aztecs as apposed to dutches (or grumman couger for that matter)I would much rather do a rating in a six seater with a higher payload to have a better chance at starting part time charter or air- ambulance work/ATO... than take my chances in a rat race large school scene... where you would only benefit after spending another 13 or so grand on a C-Cat and instructing is NOT what everyone wants/ should have to do if they are prepared to hit the road and see whats available out there
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trehole excuse me but you are an idiot. Why get a worthless type rating i.e duchess, cougar and then have to fork out for another 1-2 hours for another type rating to get yourself in a position to be attractive to small charter companies? You WILL end up spending more in the long run. What is this thread all about? Trying to save money. MrFish if the aztec is going out at 260/hour like kiwiboy says I'd be up in Whenuepai in a flash if I were you.
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Your opinion is noted Mr Fast. But my point is are you really going to be that attractive to a company with only 5 hrs of light twin time regardless of what it is in?
My 5 odd hrs in a Seneca was as about as helpful to me as the other 5 in a Seminole.
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p.s. Sorry Mr Fish for filling this topic with irrelevant material
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I just went and spoke to one of the instructors at the Whenuapai Aviation Sports Club. The Aztec ZK-DUB goes out at $280/hr. An instructor will cost another $35/hr, I poked my head in quickly it is pretty basic but acceptable. I believe you will have to register with the club at $120 for 6 months. For more details you can call on (09) 417-7000. Ask the operator for the Aviation Soorts Club.
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Multi time is multi time regardless. When you send your cv off, it is totalled as such. It is an added advantage to have Navajo and Aztec endorsements, but if you have no multi job, why waste money on flying the most expensive twin out there. As for the hourly rates of these A/C, dont be fooled. AFS's Duckys are expensive in comparison to ZK-DUB @NZWP but the difference comes into play when the Duckys are on airswitch and not on Hobbs or tacho. It pays not to take everything at face value. If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.

Well, thats my two cents worth anyway, hope it helps someone. Till next time.....

Huey.

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The thing you may want to think about is what you are getting for your dollar. These days flying is not a cheap option and the lowest price may not necessarily give you the best training or choice.

Remember that it is the quality of training that you are looking for, which is not necessarily the cheapest or the most expensive. Too many times it has been seen that pilots have completed multi training in the cheapest and fastest method, only to have come unstuck and for us to read about them in accident reports.

If you are planning on heading into an airline job then the habits that are taught and learnt during your multi and subsequent IFR training need to be of a standard and such that an airline does not need to "retrain" you (only that they will build on your experience).

(edited for spelling and grammar)

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