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Federal Election
So with only a handfull of days to go, who do you think will serve the interests of aviation best:
Howard Government with Anderson or new DOTRS Minister, or
Beazley Government with Crean or other new DOTRS Minister?
Howard Government with Anderson or new DOTRS Minister, or
Beazley Government with Crean or other new DOTRS Minister?
Far be it from me to make a political statement but...I don't think the country has had a really good transport minister for many years (10+) but it is in the best interest of the national party to pull their finger out and make an effort as I would have thought the health of regional aviation would go to the heart of their area . I don't think Labor will give a rats about aviation unless it is in some unions interests. For the military I think their is little doubt who will give the money and who will take it away to give to all those poor people who have to spend their days surfing and complaining about work for the dole!
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Does it matter who wins? No party gives a rats about aviation, the transport portfolio is one of the crumbs the PM throws to a loyal crawler, any knowledge or care this person may have is a accident what the transport department will quickly remove. Yes minister
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Agree, Aviation is'nt important to either side. Could end up as Minister with either -
Bronwyn , or Cheryl !!!
(One has past form with kerosene.)
Horrible thoughts - take the current Ansett situation and how the two major parties have handled it . As Sir Humphrey said .... "Oh but what a tangled web we weave, when we attempt to deceive." "Yes Min...ister".
Bronwyn , or Cheryl !!!
(One has past form with kerosene.)
Horrible thoughts - take the current Ansett situation and how the two major parties have handled it . As Sir Humphrey said .... "Oh but what a tangled web we weave, when we attempt to deceive." "Yes Min...ister".
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Agree with ozbiggles - the coalition could do a lot better but there is absolutely no question that they serve aviation's interests better than Labor and any aviation person who thinks (or votes) otherwise is deluded!
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It all ties in with economic management. Who are the best economic managers? No prizes for the answer. Those of us who lived through the years of Cain and Kirner in Victoria, and before that Whitlam and co are more than a bit skittish about letting the Opposition in at this stage even though I totally agree about our past and recent aviation ministers. All pretty hopeless. What we need is someone, who doesn't have his or her own agenda, who knows and understands the industry. I don't think a person such as this exists but one can always hope.
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Whilst I tend to agree with all of the above comments, I would like to point out that if it had not been for Anderson's intervention, Skywest would still be stuck on the ground, as the "good doctor Gallop" was quite happy to let qantas take over all of the regional flying in W.A.
Indeed his (Gallop's) administration is still being extremely unhelpful to the Skywest cause.
So for purely selfish reasons I for one was happy with Anderson's performance.
Indeed his (Gallop's) administration is still being extremely unhelpful to the Skywest cause.
So for purely selfish reasons I for one was happy with Anderson's performance.
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If you want some attention paid to the Aviation Sector now is the time to speak up. With what is happening on the world stage, the domestic stage and the election upon us. - Maybe we should all speak to our local members TODAY!
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According to todays Age and Martin Ferguson, Labor policy is to axe the CASA board starting with Toller due lack of industry confidence and appoint an ombudsman to handle complaints.
By contrast John Anderson championed the independence of the incumbent board.
[ 08 November 2001: Message edited by: daytrader ]
By contrast John Anderson championed the independence of the incumbent board.
[ 08 November 2001: Message edited by: daytrader ]
HarveyGee ... Harvey my boy. Are you suggesting aviation could be even more miss handled and miss managed under a Labour Government, than under the present incumbent Minister????? 
I would not have thought that possible. And you most of all should be aware how little the Minister et al has done for your specific section of the aviation industry!
However I agree bad times are headed Australia's way and only a Conservative Government has the runs on the board when it comes to tough economic management decisions.
Sunday, November 11, is the Anniversary of the justified sacking of previous Labour Prime Minister Whitlam.
I wonder which Party will be celebrating this Armistice Day?
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I would not have thought that possible. And you most of all should be aware how little the Minister et al has done for your specific section of the aviation industry!
However I agree bad times are headed Australia's way and only a Conservative Government has the runs on the board when it comes to tough economic management decisions.
Sunday, November 11, is the Anniversary of the justified sacking of previous Labour Prime Minister Whitlam.
I wonder which Party will be celebrating this Armistice Day?
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Be afraid, very afraid if Labour gets in.
Most of the abuse, infamy, rape and pillage surrounding this industry occured whilst this country was under Labour rule.
Hawke, Brereton (your worst nightmare come true), Crean and has every body forgotten Keltys famous speech to the adoring proles
If you want to be run by what passes for ACTU brainpower?
thats fine, but don't say I didn't tell you.
Ombudsman Geeez what's Mar'n Fer'n smoking now.
The Board doesn't lack industry support it lacks Government support. But that's not suprising given RHS's last 2 plunderings.
"Capt: Can I have Flaps20 now please and finals checklist??
FO: Listen Comrade Capt, it's Comrade FO to you, I happen to believe we are low on profile and don't need them just yet and in any event we haven't yet had a cross factional vote on this course of action.
I really need a written mandate on ACARS from Swanson St first.
I am though, authorised to default to performing the requested action, but I am obliged to warn you that the matter will be passed to Mar'ns Ombudsperson for action.
Not happy Captain.
Flap20 coming and ....."
Most of the abuse, infamy, rape and pillage surrounding this industry occured whilst this country was under Labour rule.
Hawke, Brereton (your worst nightmare come true), Crean and has every body forgotten Keltys famous speech to the adoring proles
If you want to be run by what passes for ACTU brainpower?
thats fine, but don't say I didn't tell you. Ombudsman Geeez what's Mar'n Fer'n smoking now.
The Board doesn't lack industry support it lacks Government support. But that's not suprising given RHS's last 2 plunderings.
"Capt: Can I have Flaps20 now please and finals checklist??
FO: Listen Comrade Capt, it's Comrade FO to you, I happen to believe we are low on profile and don't need them just yet and in any event we haven't yet had a cross factional vote on this course of action.
I really need a written mandate on ACARS from Swanson St first.
I am though, authorised to default to performing the requested action, but I am obliged to warn you that the matter will be passed to Mar'ns Ombudsperson for action.
Not happy Captain.
Flap20 coming and ....."
Sorry Gaunty, I've tried to keep off this thread but.....jes' cain't 'elp meself.
Sack the Board and have an Ombudsman deal with 'complaints'
The two functions are so dissimilar one has to wonder if Martin actually understands their respective roles.
Ombudsmen traditionally have the power to investigate and recommendaction after the event. They cannot directthat action be taken and can be(and have been)ignored.
What little power they have derives from the agency's fear of embarrassment at an unfavourable report.
How does that equate to the Board's responsibility to lead and direct?
Sack the Board and have an Ombudsman deal with 'complaints'
The two functions are so dissimilar one has to wonder if Martin actually understands their respective roles.
Ombudsmen traditionally have the power to investigate and recommendaction after the event. They cannot directthat action be taken and can be(and have been)ignored.
What little power they have derives from the agency's fear of embarrassment at an unfavourable report.
How does that equate to the Board's responsibility to lead and direct?
