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Old 13th May 2023, 11:37
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Windows password cancellation

HP SFF desktop win 7 64 bit Pro. Some years back, as a result of junior family visitors fouling up the software and installing unwanted add-ons. I made access password protected. Logging on requires password entry - not difficult but no longer necessary. Tried to remove password protection, but Windows refuses. Found a (supposed) method of removing it but so convoluted it made my (limited) brain hurt ! Since I must be aware of the current password in order to open Windows, why on earth does the system prevent me from cancelling the feature ?
... for possible future users of the password feature ... take note !!
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Since I must be aware of the current password in order to open Windows, why on earth does the system prevent me from cancelling the feature ?
It's a security feature. Otherwise anyone could cancel the need for a password and defeat the whole security concept.

A Google search lists quite a few fixes to change the login password - some appear to be more simple that others. I haven't tried any of them, but most of them seem to have worked for other users.

Finally - or perhaps rather as a first step - persist for a while with what you think the password might have been. Good luck - it appears to be do-able.
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Originally Posted by FullOppositeRudder
It's a security feature. Otherwise anyone could cancel the need for a password and defeat the whole security concept.

A Google search lists quite a few fixes to change the login password - some appear to be more simple that others. I haven't tried any of them, but most of them seem to have worked for other users.

Finally - or perhaps rather as a first step - persist for a while with what you think the password might have been. Good luck - it appears to be do-able.
I assumed the OP knows the password but doesn’t want the chore of typing it in each time?

If Googles’s suggestions don’t work you could try creating a new user without a password and then deleting the user you have.

But watch out you don’t lose access to any files or apps associated with the old owner. Make sure the new user has access to them before deleting the old.

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Easy to follow instructions here: https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-remo...ssword-2626083
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netstruggler - Thank you ! you have it in one. The new user i/d suggestion is good commonsense ... but this is Windoze that we are dealing with !
I have tried le Pingouin's routine three times (with variations such as changing user security policy ) and each has been refused "Windows cannot remove the password. Password and/or account policies require the account to have a password"
I suspect that I shall have to give in gracefully and accept, yet again ...
Windows 1 : Commonsense 0
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"Windows cannot remove the password. Password and/or account policies require the account to have a password"
Try this:
1. Click Start
2. Type the three letters cmd into the Search box and click OK.
3. Type this command and press Enter:
control userpasswords2 (if you are not an administrator, you will be prompted for the administrator account password)
4. Single-click your account name.
5. Untick the box that requires users to enter a password.
6. Click OK.
7. Enter your current password when prompted and click OK.

If your account isn't listed, try this:
  1. Click on start, right click on computer.
  2. Click on manage, under local user and groups, click on users.
  3. Right click on the account you want to delete the password, and click on the properties.
  4. Check if “User cannot change the password” has a check mark.
  5. If yes, then uncheck “User cannot change the password” and ok.
You probably want to make sure that you tick "Password never expires", even for a blank password.

It is not a good idea to still be using Windows 7 - I sincerely hope that your daily user account is not an admin account. It is a really, really poor idea to have an admin account with no password on an out-of-date OS.

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Saab Dastard, and all who responded, thank you.
SD - I fully note your caveats on the continuing use of W7 and you are quite right ... however, having progressed through the various iterations of 'confusing' from dos 5 and Win 2/3, my patience became exhausted by W7 and the 88 year old mental faculties buckle under the strain of yet another 'improvement', so W7 it shall be !
Your valid warning about the admin account is 'hoisted on board' and I think I shall accept defeat and remain 'protected' !!

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Originally Posted by Cornish Jack
Saab Dastard, and all who responded, thank you.
SD - I fully note your caveats on the continuing use of W7 and you are quite right ... however, having progreeesd through the various iterations of 'confusing' from dos 5 and Win 2/3, my patience became exhausted by W7 and the 88 year old mental faculties buckle under the strain of yet another 'improvement', so W7 it shall be !
Your valid watning about the admin account is 'hoisted on board' and I think I shall accept defeat and remain 'protected' !!
A good job you never got around to trying Windows 8 - I found that a complete nightmare. Windows 10 on the other hand is pretty good and 11 is OK too I think, providing you have the hardware to support it.

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yes W10 & 11 are pretty good - similar to Xp

Vista was a true nightmare
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My contender for "Worst Windows Version": Millennium Edition. Very high crash rate, among other issues.
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Don't know if it still applies, but I always used to skip one major version. The next one along would invariably be a lot better. From Win3.11, skip 95, use 98 (preferably SE), skip ME, use XP and so on.
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Originally Posted by Jhieminga
Don't know if it still applies, but I always used to skip one major version. The next one along would invariably be a lot better. From Win3.11, skip 95, use 98 (preferably SE), skip ME, use XP and so on.
Pretty accurate. That said, my Win upgrade from 10 to 11 was painless - fortunately the business about the processor needing to be such and such just required a software tweak of some sort on my lap top which turned out to be easy.
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Further to upgrades - I bought a refurbished/upgraded Windows 11 PC a few months ago and it was fine until a document I was working on suddenly locked up. I used Ctrl Alt Delete to see what was going on and then found Windows was updating itself. Unfortunately the system locked up as well and after half an hour I had to do a hard shut-down. Then it wouldn't boot into Windows and over the next couple of days I tried everything to fix it with the Windows repair options. Nothing worked, even System restore showed no saved points and a recovery disc wouldn't go any further because of a missing file (how could that be?).
I had to format the drive with a downloaded ISO and when I eventually got W11 back, I'd lost the MS Office 2019 that had been included in the bundle. Then found out in BIOS that there was no Trusted Platform Module 2.0, which was supposed to be essential for W11, Enable Secure Boot had been disabled and the processor was not on the support list. I'm guessing that the minimum requirements had been bypassed by the registry hack. Secure Boot has got it back into action but for how long if the updates decide otherwise...
So - I'd suggest that anyone thinking of buying a PC upgraded to W11 should check on its specs first.
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Further to my above post, another Windows update sent the machine into repair mode, fortunately resolved by itself this time.
I never had problems like this with my previous versions, why can't the Beanbag Barons just @&%$@# leave perfectly adequate systems/interfaces alone. I can't find anything on Windows 11 that's more useful than W10 (or even XP and 7, come to that). If anything, it's more difficult to navigate through. It'll be a nightmare for those comfortable with the more-or-less consistent (simple) previous versions when W10 gets to it's 'end of life' retirement and this gets foisted on them.
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Why did we lose 3.1?
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Because Bill Gates needed to keep selling new stuff - same with Apple, Jaguar/Land Rover, Bosch washing machines etc etc

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Originally Posted by Ancient Observer
Why did we lose 3.1?
Not totally lost ... I have a set of 'floppies' if you have an irresistable urge to 'revert' !!
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Same here... bring your own floppy drive though!
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Yeah I used to have quite a lot of 5.25 and 3.5" floppies full of software, OS and otherwise. Ditched it all...
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
Yeah I used to have quite a lot of 5.25 and 3.5" floppies full of software, OS and otherwise. Ditched it all...
When I started work in the late 80s we were using 8" floppies and reel to reel tape drives. Both media got phased out in the early 90s but the computers were only decommissioned a couple of years ago. One went to a museum and we've kept the other one in the computer room. We still spin it up from time to time - it impresses management much more than the stuff we replaced it with.

They were these.


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