Would really appreciate a bit of advice.
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Would really appreciate a bit of advice.
Very difficult times, so got rid of the Asus executive toy and purchased a huge Vaio to take over from my PC which has been my brain's link to the world for a long time. However, the replacement runs hot and I daren't rely on it for everything we have to do to sell the house and get back to the UK etc.
It's a Sony VPCF 125FX An i7 running on W7
Piriform Speccy shows the CPU temps c 48 (amber) on Power Saver setting, but on Balanced, they quickly go to 50+ sometimes going into the red around 60c
The fan exhaust seems too hot and the speed tends to hunt around a bit - something I didn't realize during a quick test. (only paid $275 for it so no protracted time spent.) Oddly now, it's hovering on 51c on balanced, but it's a cool 28c today.
Goo goo shows quite a lot about these fans, but the house has been stripped of all my stuff and I daren't open it up with limited tools.
Do you think I can used this - even on reduced power - to get over this period as I really need to take the communications and data up to DFW
It's a Sony VPCF 125FX An i7 running on W7
Piriform Speccy shows the CPU temps c 48 (amber) on Power Saver setting, but on Balanced, they quickly go to 50+ sometimes going into the red around 60c
The fan exhaust seems too hot and the speed tends to hunt around a bit - something I didn't realize during a quick test. (only paid $275 for it so no protracted time spent.) Oddly now, it's hovering on 51c on balanced, but it's a cool 28c today.
Goo goo shows quite a lot about these fans, but the house has been stripped of all my stuff and I daren't open it up with limited tools.
Do you think I can used this - even on reduced power - to get over this period as I really need to take the communications and data up to DFW
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Is that a Haswell i7? Those temperatures are pretty similar to my Haswell i5, it's around 50C in normal web browsing/word processing use when the CPU isn't doing much, and the fan doesn't even seem to come on until it hits about 60C.
Of course mine might be broken too
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Of course mine might be broken too
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Loose rivets Hello its me again..
On reading your origional post: I downloaded a prog called SpeedFan - the AV said that it was legitimate - as you may remember I run a Dell Vostro 1300 series with Vista - The Mother board is damaged due to a previous [The only Fan failed ] - I'm running a Norton Full system scan in the background too -
The Base temps are HD0 36-40 C , Core 0 48 C, Core 1 48 C - The Cooling fan is intermittent; a good sign. Fan(s) at full tilt = trouble.
As I type the stats are as follows:- (Keep an ear open for NO FAN SOUND ! ) Ambient temp 19 C.
its an old Dual core 1.8 GhHz P.C(Found Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5670 @ 1.80GHz) HD0 50 C (ST9160823ASG ) core 1 56 C Core 0 56 C (little funace icons next to the temps) - Running after 4 hours (One for the bone Yard)
Its still running OK age 7 Years. I cleaned out the Dog hairs to day !
The Base temps are HD0 36-40 C , Core 0 48 C, Core 1 48 C - The Cooling fan is intermittent; a good sign. Fan(s) at full tilt = trouble.
As I type the stats are as follows:- (Keep an ear open for NO FAN SOUND ! ) Ambient temp 19 C.
its an old Dual core 1.8 GhHz P.C(Found Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5670 @ 1.80GHz) HD0 50 C (ST9160823ASG ) core 1 56 C Core 0 56 C (little funace icons next to the temps) - Running after 4 hours (One for the bone Yard)
Its still running OK age 7 Years. I cleaned out the Dog hairs to day !
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CatIII speaks well.
I used Speedfan with my erstwhile laptop, and it did solve the overheating problem. The fan ran all the time, and speeded up when it needed to.
That laptop's screen died a year or so ago (not related to heat). I've not bothered to replace it since the iPad does most of what it used to do. The desktop machine in the study "just works" - and very well, despite what the Indian Microsoft Windows phone calls try to tell me.
I used Speedfan with my erstwhile laptop, and it did solve the overheating problem. The fan ran all the time, and speeded up when it needed to.
That laptop's screen died a year or so ago (not related to heat). I've not bothered to replace it since the iPad does most of what it used to do. The desktop machine in the study "just works" - and very well, despite what the Indian Microsoft Windows phone calls try to tell me.
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A quick google suggests that it's a i7-740QM inside (a spec sheet on the Sony site says this but I guess there may have been other processors fitted). If this your CPU, it's a pretty power hungry beast with a corresponding high heat output. Take a look at Tom's Hardware for a discussion and go from there. But to put it simply, it looks like it's a hot running CPU and the sort of temps you're seeing are not unusual.
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I'm sure if you underclock it a bit you'll see a big drop in temps and not much effect on performance.
Most machines are ridiculously overpowered these days for what the average person does 98% of the time.
Most machines are ridiculously overpowered these days for what the average person does 98% of the time.
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Thanks chaps. Downloaded Speedfan and the first thing that stands out is CPU fan is 4560, but Fan 2 is 0.
Has this really got two fans, if so I guess the second one would be the graphics, but I can turn the screen off for a while and it makes no difference.
I'm sitting in piles of boxes with my tools . . . somewhere. Pity, this machine would have been a good stop-gap despite not being able to carry it far.
Mac, under clocking. I sort of am with Power-saver, but today that's not making much difference despite being in slightly cooler conditions. The BIOS seems to have very little to offer. VERY little. I can't find any hidden toolboxes to manipulate . . . anything much.
In haste
Has this really got two fans, if so I guess the second one would be the graphics, but I can turn the screen off for a while and it makes no difference.
I'm sitting in piles of boxes with my tools . . . somewhere. Pity, this machine would have been a good stop-gap despite not being able to carry it far.
Mac, under clocking. I sort of am with Power-saver, but today that's not making much difference despite being in slightly cooler conditions. The BIOS seems to have very little to offer. VERY little. I can't find any hidden toolboxes to manipulate . . . anything much.
In haste
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Not looking good. Fan making wild changes, and speed-fan 4.49 has no knobs to turn as per web site instructions. Just a lot of warnings. Yes, I've un-checked the auto box and not a sausage.
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Those Fan changes
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Those Fan changes do not sound good - It was the wild behaviour of the one and only fan on the Vostro that alerted me rather late to the fact that the Air Exit Grill had become clogged up - too late by half, HD0 had already rached 60-62 Degrees C - without shutting down.
See if the base of the unit feels hot: Common sense, I know; but I missed the situation creeping up.
Can you look in side to see what is actually fitted ?
I cannot see the fan speeds either, but look in the options menu - I think the's an option to look for other sys components somewhere.
As a general rule of thumb 50 Degrees C is hot for even a portable HD - The Chip's core(s) from experence should be less that 60 Degrees C. [Edit: upper 30's to mid 40's C]
I'm not talking about Gaming P/C's but ordinary bod's stuff.
The GPU's seem to run a bit hotter under load.
Final Note: Fan Speed on the Vostro/Win Vista - has to be run in isolation (for me) EMET 4.XX and Malware bytes fight it with BSOD results Firefox as well.
It co-exsits with Norton of all things !
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Those Fan changes do not sound good - It was the wild behaviour of the one and only fan on the Vostro that alerted me rather late to the fact that the Air Exit Grill had become clogged up - too late by half, HD0 had already rached 60-62 Degrees C - without shutting down.
See if the base of the unit feels hot: Common sense, I know; but I missed the situation creeping up.
Can you look in side to see what is actually fitted ?
I cannot see the fan speeds either, but look in the options menu - I think the's an option to look for other sys components somewhere.
As a general rule of thumb 50 Degrees C is hot for even a portable HD - The Chip's core(s) from experence should be less that 60 Degrees C. [Edit: upper 30's to mid 40's C]
I'm not talking about Gaming P/C's but ordinary bod's stuff.
The GPU's seem to run a bit hotter under load.
Final Note: Fan Speed on the Vostro/Win Vista - has to be run in isolation (for me) EMET 4.XX and Malware bytes fight it with BSOD results Firefox as well.
It co-exsits with Norton of all things !
CAT III
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It looks as though I'm going to have to wait for being in the UK All tools are packed. Total chaos here as sale of house was held up, so week of sorting up near DFW was lost. PC now just MB and HD in old meat boxes of all things. Hope they work in a new case - didn't want to lose the OEM OS.
I probably could clean this unit in an hour or so, but not in son's house. I did put the Dyson vac on the outlet and could not see ANY sign of fluff, but it might be it's just sucked it into a tighter blob.
Better not linger.
I probably could clean this unit in an hour or so, but not in son's house. I did put the Dyson vac on the outlet and could not see ANY sign of fluff, but it might be it's just sucked it into a tighter blob.
Better not linger.
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Yes, wondered that. It'll have to wait, Rivetess has spent 3 hours on BA site trying to make sense of our flight tomorrow. Grumpy as she is, she's running on red-line for days trying to get stuff sorted. I'd have never done it - not a bit like the old days.
I did in fact try to take the Vaio apart last night. Limited tools, but of all things, I couldn't get the DVD drive out. One screw, but it refused to pull out. Tried little clips and bits on the edge - accessed where the HD came out, but nothing would release it. I put it back and it's just useable in short burst.
Thanks again, and I'll report back when I'm ensconced back 'home'.
I did in fact try to take the Vaio apart last night. Limited tools, but of all things, I couldn't get the DVD drive out. One screw, but it refused to pull out. Tried little clips and bits on the edge - accessed where the HD came out, but nothing would release it. I put it back and it's just useable in short burst.
Thanks again, and I'll report back when I'm ensconced back 'home'.
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Sony eSupport - VPCF125FX - Support
then click on "VPCF1 Series Optical Disk Drive Replacement Instructions"
then click on "VPCF1 Series Optical Disk Drive Replacement Instructions"
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Another utility to try
Dear Rivits
Another moioring utility to try; it's less problematic on my little furnace.
HWMonitor CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting
Just try the freeware for starters - The fuifures I get correlate well with speed fan
[I have no pecunary or other interests with CPUID]
CAT III
Another moioring utility to try; it's less problematic on my little furnace.
HWMonitor CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting
Just try the freeware for starters - The fuifures I get correlate well with speed fan
[I have no pecunary or other interests with CPUID]
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Absolutely nothing wrong with 70-80 degree temp on a CPU. I've seen 105 on a Core 2 in a Macbook (that is now 7 years old and still working).
Also, buying a laptop with a core i7 is probably the first mistake...
I have a low-end i5 in mine that runs very cool indeed (not Haswell, but generation before), and handles everything I throw at it (30 programs open, 100 browser tabs, etc.) with ease. Even a modern Core i3 is way more than most people need in a laptop.
Also, buying a laptop with a core i7 is probably the first mistake...
I have a low-end i5 in mine that runs very cool indeed (not Haswell, but generation before), and handles everything I throw at it (30 programs open, 100 browser tabs, etc.) with ease. Even a modern Core i3 is way more than most people need in a laptop.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with 70-80 degree temp on a CPU
BTW, is that degrees F or C?
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Arrived in the UK. Brain fade makes things not work, but the computer seemed to have repared itself after hours of flying. Sat there doing normal things on balanced power with normal coolish air out. Mmmm . . .
A day later it played up again, but this time became a paint stripper. No demanding use whatsoever. No reason to pick that moment.
I haven't looked inside yet, and Bush, I'll search in that site again, but first try I could not see the item. But then, brain not working at all well.
There could I suppose be a lump of soggy fluff that can be displaced, but somehow I doubt it. It seems something turns on that causes the chip to heat like hell.
If my host heads back to the City, I'll make a determined attempt to have a look inside. I'll also get a case for my MB and HD and hope that it's survived the security inspection that took place. (note in my case and loose memory unwrapped)
i7? It's funny, but it was on this forum that someone said in an answer to something, i5 would be alright, but i7 would be better. When offered this PC replacement object for so little, I thought it a good idea, but I'm almost regretting selling the Asus now.
A day later it played up again, but this time became a paint stripper. No demanding use whatsoever. No reason to pick that moment.
I haven't looked inside yet, and Bush, I'll search in that site again, but first try I could not see the item. But then, brain not working at all well.
There could I suppose be a lump of soggy fluff that can be displaced, but somehow I doubt it. It seems something turns on that causes the chip to heat like hell.
If my host heads back to the City, I'll make a determined attempt to have a look inside. I'll also get a case for my MB and HD and hope that it's survived the security inspection that took place. (note in my case and loose memory unwrapped)
i7? It's funny, but it was on this forum that someone said in an answer to something, i5 would be alright, but i7 would be better. When offered this PC replacement object for so little, I thought it a good idea, but I'm almost regretting selling the Asus now.
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Click on the "manuals, specs and warranty" tab. Open the PDF at bottom left, titled "VPCF1 Series Optical Disk Drive Replacement Instructions". It's two screws then the unit slides out. But I think it's a pointless thing to do. Other manuals on the site tell you how to replace various bits. If you DID get the machine apart, and I don't think you should, you'd probably want to check the compound between the CPU and the heat sink.
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Bush. I don't think I should either, but then if I didn't, I wouldn't be me. Thanks to you I've removed the DVD. The darn rear screw has multiple arrows indicating it does more than one job.
Days of sleeping in and loads of REM sleep has my brain half way back. Can't recall much REM for the entire time of selling the house. Anyway, my voluptuous host has zoomed off in her Jag and I've commandeered the kitchen table. First look, not much more than a light dusting of fluff.
Delving further.
Days of sleeping in and loads of REM sleep has my brain half way back. Can't recall much REM for the entire time of selling the house. Anyway, my voluptuous host has zoomed off in her Jag and I've commandeered the kitchen table. First look, not much more than a light dusting of fluff.
Delving further.