Suggestion for speeding up my PC's start-up time.
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Not quite - tho' the effect may seem the same.
Essentially, 'stand by' powers down yer hard drives, usb, video & sound drivers - in fact everything except the motherboard, which remains awaiting your next command. It then powers up the peripherals & gets on with it.
Hibernation is different in that it makes an exact copy of everything you are doing at the time, onto the hard drive. It then turns the machine off completely. This obviously saves energy (takes no power at all in a laptop, a tiny amount in a desktop, 'cos the powersupply is still connected to the mains) and arguably protects your machine from power surges, since it ain't doing anything to be ruined by spikes of volts.
Restart from hibernate is a bit slower, since everything has to be reloaded from the hard drive. But it doesn't take long. Usually!
Essentially, 'stand by' powers down yer hard drives, usb, video & sound drivers - in fact everything except the motherboard, which remains awaiting your next command. It then powers up the peripherals & gets on with it.
Hibernation is different in that it makes an exact copy of everything you are doing at the time, onto the hard drive. It then turns the machine off completely. This obviously saves energy (takes no power at all in a laptop, a tiny amount in a desktop, 'cos the powersupply is still connected to the mains) and arguably protects your machine from power surges, since it ain't doing anything to be ruined by spikes of volts.
Restart from hibernate is a bit slower, since everything has to be reloaded from the hard drive. But it doesn't take long. Usually!

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Mmmmm so is hibernation the same as stand by...as thats what I have when I go to shut down?
And is there a downside of leaving it in stand by...
Now if I ditch Sygate firewall and use the in built windows fire wall will that be up to the job....the only reason I disabled it and run Sygate is that I read that the windows fire wall is naff...but several of you have know recommended ditch it.
Nick.
And is there a downside of leaving it in stand by...
Now if I ditch Sygate firewall and use the in built windows fire wall will that be up to the job....the only reason I disabled it and run Sygate is that I read that the windows fire wall is naff...but several of you have know recommended ditch it.
Nick.
I realise that doesn't provide you with info as to whether or not i'm any good, but i've been in the industry for over 20 years and have yet to have a customer complain of being hacked whilst in my care.
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I'm convinced Mike re Sygate...going to switch the windows one back on...
Just found how to go in to hibernation never used it before...and I'm surprised at the difference it makes,
So do most users use the hibernation method when the PC is not in use???
Nick.
Just found how to go in to hibernation never used it before...and I'm surprised at the difference it makes,
So do most users use the hibernation method when the PC is not in use???
Nick.
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p.s. Guru-wise, I'd give Mike-B my vote.
(He even comes from Bracknell: a town I enjoyed living in for 20 years, though no-one else seems to share my opinion of it.
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a town I enjoyed living in for 20 years, though no-one else seems to share my opinion of it

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Another big recommendation for SOLUTO. It really is the bees knees for understanding and pruning your start up programs. Also, have you run any defragmentation programs recently - Auslogics have a very good free program version.

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p.s. - I'm originally from Hemel Hempstead, so even worse!
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Well, I wish I'd never heard of SOLUTO.
I downloaded the installer and it started a lengthy (15-20 minute) routine with several Avast alerts triggered. At the end, it said "How embarrassing, there is a problem. Click here for possible causes".
Well, I 'clicked here' and..........nothing!
Uninstall followed. Just hope it wasn't data mining.
I downloaded the installer and it started a lengthy (15-20 minute) routine with several Avast alerts triggered. At the end, it said "How embarrassing, there is a problem. Click here for possible causes".
Well, I 'clicked here' and..........nothing!
Uninstall followed. Just hope it wasn't data mining.
Controversial, moi?


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I found Soluto worked as advertised but only managed to shave 8 secs of my boot time with everything it recommended prevented from loading!
I use this piece of standalone, small and free software. Not as comprehensive as some nor can it prevent Quicktime and one or two other pieces of software from starting but useful nonetheless.
I use this piece of standalone, small and free software. Not as comprehensive as some nor can it prevent Quicktime and one or two other pieces of software from starting but useful nonetheless.
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Just been reading up on the use of hibernation with XP,
Says the hard drive copies what you are doing on going into hibernation,
Am I correct in thinking that on start-up the PC will dump the info it stored to go into hibernation and it wont be clogging memory.
Nick.
Says the hard drive copies what you are doing on going into hibernation,
Am I correct in thinking that on start-up the PC will dump the info it stored to go into hibernation and it wont be clogging memory.
Nick.
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Am I correct in thinking that on start-up the PC will dump the info it stored to go into hibernation and it wont be clogging memory.
Sleep saves your computer's state in RAM.
This makes it quick to restore, but is obviously volatile (i.e. lose power, lose stored state).
Hibernation stores the contents of your RAM on disk (similarly to what happens during paging when you don't have enough RAM and the computer uses your disk as virtual RAM).
This makes it slower to restore, but is not volatile (i.e. you can remove power source and not worry).




