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magpienja 12th November 2011 18:28

Suggestion for speeding up my PC's start-up time.
 
My PC seem to take forever to fully start-up on firing it up...I'm running XP,

The last thing to appear on the task bar at the bottom of the screen is Sygate firewall,

Tried clearing all of the temp internet files...but it doesn't help,

Once its up and running its fine,

suggestions anybody please.

Nick.

ShyTorque 12th November 2011 19:30

You might be able to get into the BIOS and select a quickboot option. This would help a little but your main problem is possibly the number of programs being started on startup of XP.

I regularly use "CCleaner" which can be downloaded for free and has options to clean up stuff you don't need.

CCleaner - Optimization and Cleaning - Free Download

green granite 12th November 2011 19:34

Type 'sysconfig' into the run box, press return click on the 'start up tab and untick all the programs you don't need to running all the time, then do the same in the 'services' tab.

vulcanised 12th November 2011 19:41

I got rid of the XP splash screen (forget how) which helped a bit.

Assume you have reasonable free space on the HD which you've defragged fairly recently?

Mike-Bracknell 12th November 2011 20:08

Uninstall Sygate firewall.

Tarq57 12th November 2011 20:58

Almost certainly un-needed programs starting with Windows. These can include programs that came pre-installed, such as Adobe Reader.

GG above mentions to type sysconfig into the run box; pretty sure that should be "msconfig" (without the quotes). Run it, select the start up tab, and have a look at what is listed. You might find the number of installed programs that decide they should start with Windows interesting.

How deep do you want to get into this?

Shandy52 12th November 2011 21:24

You may not need to remove any startup programs to gain an improvement - part of the problem is that Windows (at least up to XP) kicks off all the startup programs more or less at once, thus causing contention for resources. I have in the past used a program called WinPatrol, which among other things enables you to set a defined delay on specific programs. When used with care, this can alleviate the problem considerably.

green granite 12th November 2011 21:30


GG above mentions to type sysconfig into the run box; pretty sure that should be "msconfig"
Your right its a long time since I used XP and I tend use a different way in to it W7 (and I was thinking of config.sys anyway :ugh:)

Load Toad 13th November 2011 01:11

I've used Soluto: Soluto

- which seemed to help start up my PC.

mixture 13th November 2011 07:17

How much RAM have you got ? Might be time for a couple of chips to find their way into your computer.

The Nr Fairy 13th November 2011 07:50

SSD - without a doubt.

So much faster than platter disks, but at a price. But it will reinvigorate a tired PC/laptop.

jimtherev 13th November 2011 08:14

Hibernate?
 
I'm surprised that no-one has yet suggested hibernation. IMHO a full restart every time just isn't necessary, if you don't have, for example, a silly app running which has a memory leak. I've found that a full restart about every week, with a use of Ccleaner about every month, keeps everything running slickly. Morning start-up time is about 15 seconds with my present setup.

magpienja 13th November 2011 08:38

Thanks guys...as for stopping unnecessary progs...after going into MSCONFIG,

The only problem is me knowing which ones are needed....some of the entries are obscure names that I dont recognise....any tips for knowing which ones to stop.

Nick.

green granite 13th November 2011 09:03

ignore the ones with obscure names, go for ones that you don't use very often but are loaded at start up such as your sat-nav and camera programs, they don't need to be running all the time, things like word, open office and adobe load up just to save a few moments when you open them for use. If you find you've un-ticked something that was in fact useful to have permanently running you can always re-tick it.

Tarq57 13th November 2011 09:06

"Googling" the names will generally lead to identification of the program the process belongs to.

Some of the programs you might actually want to run at start...antivirus, firewall etc. Many of them (Skype, or Adobe, for example) you may wish to disable from starting, unless they pertain to the main reason you have a computer running.

Those that you wish to disable are best done (1) through each individual program interface, where such an option is available (program concerned>tools>options is usually the way to find these.)

Some run as a service. These are better disabled via the run box, and "services.msc" (without the quotes), and setting the start type in that window to "manual".

Slightly off topic, but I agree with uninstalling Sygate firewall. Nothing wrong with it, as far as I know, but Windows firewall is generally adequate, in combination with a good AV, and prompting for the running of any scripts in the browser.

If you would like any help with a particular process, feel free to ask.

OFSO 13th November 2011 10:01

I'm with jimt...sleep or hibernation instead of a shutdown and restart. Fact is I only do the latter when there's an update to install which requires it or when I'm away for a few days, otherwise it's sleep every night.

Incidently I have the central heating radiator permanently off in the office (hence the name "office"...er hat, coat) and in winter the PC & periphs stay on and keep the room above freezing.

Mike-Bracknell 13th November 2011 10:09


Originally Posted by Tarq57 (Post 6804896)
Slightly off topic, but I agree with uninstalling Sygate firewall. Nothing wrong with it, as far as I know, but Windows firewall is generally adequate, in combination with a good AV, and prompting for the running of any scripts in the browser.

Off topic? I'd not have mentioned it if I thought it didn't have an effect (despite many here understanding I have a deep-seated dislike of 3rd-party firewalls).

It's my assertion that the firewall software will inevitably end up firewalling essential internal Windows processes that communicate between each other via the IP stack, and the slowdown you notice are the relevant services waiting and then timing out. Left long enough or with a wrong enough configuration (or having a nasty enough software shim to remove) and it'll knacker your PC enough to require a rebuild.

Incidentally, whilst my first reply was brief (but to the point), I would also add an SSD will speed up things enough to make you feel the laptop's rejuvinated (this is because the hard drive, being a moving part, has to move physically to retrieve or send the data to/from the platters, and is hence the slowest component in a PC).

Ignore all of these "tune up" pieces of software. I've yet to see one that'll make a significant difference unless your system's borked already. Uninstalling all the hardly-used software you've loaded the PC up with in the past would help, as would surveying what programs are running in the taskbar and under the startup items.

However, all that said, remove the firewall s/w first and see whether it makes the bulk of difference :ok:


Originally Posted by OFSO (Post 6804962)
I'm with jimt...sleep or hibernation instead of a shutdown and restart. Fact is I only do the latter when there's an update to install which requires it or when I'm away for a few days, otherwise it's sleep every night.

Incidently I have the central heating radiator permanently off in the office (hence the name "office"...er hat, coat) and in winter the PC & periphs stay on and keep the room above freezing.

Sleep/hibernation has never worked properly in Windows XP. It only started being semi-useful in Vista onwards (but still has the ability to mess with your networking based upon what components are in your PC).

rogerg 13th November 2011 11:51


Sleep/hibernation has never worked properly in Windows XP
Its worked for me for many years. Just horses for courses. Worth trying for a bit.

magpienja 13th November 2011 17:09

Mmmmm so is hibernation the same as stand by...as thats what I have when I go to shut down?

And is there a downside of leaving it in stand by...

Now if I ditch Sygate firewall and use the in built windows fire wall will that be up to the job....the only reason I disabled it and run Sygate is that I read that the windows fire wall is naff...but several of you have know recommended ditch it.

Nick.

txdmy1 13th November 2011 17:38

MS
 
Security essentials is free, used it since it came out, found it good and not intrusive like Norton. Also use Malware bytes and scan once a week. Thing is to keep them & your other software including Ms up to date with patches. Not had any thing on this PC since I bought it 3 years ago ;)


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