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Old 23rd February 2010 | 13:03
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Make sure your attached to the internet

have you used live update yet?
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Old 23rd February 2010 | 13:54
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Jock, Yes, but there never seems to be anything worth updating.
How do I access and run Yum.

Twitcher, I've tried your instructions also to no avail, nothing happens.
Are there any books out here that would teach me the basics of this Linux thing?
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Old 23rd February 2010 | 14:18
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Run live update and install everything it suggests

I think your not connected to the internet properly

are you getting to the stage you have a command line ending #
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Old 23rd February 2010 | 14:44
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It has just updated a long list of things and in Terminal there is a $ in front of the cursor.
It still has firefox version 2.
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Old 23rd February 2010 | 14:56
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type

sudo su

and it should go to #
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Old 23rd February 2010 | 15:02
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then copy and paste the whole of below and hit return.

rpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm

when it comes back to #

copy and paste

yum upgrade
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Old 23rd February 2010 | 20:25
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Eureka!
Thanks Mad Jock and Twitcher.
I owe you both a dram or two of the finest malt.
I followed your instructions tonight and it worked.
I have that slightly bewildered feeling one gets when these
computer things do what people say they will.
Thanks again fellas.
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Old 23rd February 2010 | 20:46
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Did you do it the manual way or did you mange to get yum to work?

Its been over a year since i had the linpus on my one and its just for personal reference if anyone else asks me. I can't really rememebr what i did to mine before I put the full fedora distro on it.
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Old 23rd February 2010 | 21:21
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Jock,
I started with your post 7 then did post 24 and then followed
Twitcher's post 13.
I have no idea what effects have taken place elsewhere under the bonnet or quite how to use yum again.
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Old 23rd February 2010 | 21:51
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yum is an installation manager. It goes off and finds out what's available for you to install and then if you install something it sorts out what other bits and bobs you need to run it and loads them as well.

After you have installed a program it will using the "yum update" command go off and check to see if there have been any updates and if so install them for you.

So say you wanted to have a different movie player you would get to the stage of having a terminal with the # and type "yum install vlc" it would bugger off and sort everything out and install it. And for ever more when you typed "yum upgrade" it would disappear off and get the latest version.

Doing it the manual way will mean that the firefox won't be in the list of applications yum will automatically upgrade.

Anyway glad its working now.
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Old 24th February 2010 | 19:40
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I'm glad you got it sorted
I found those instructions easy as they were written in a straightforward way, worked first time for me so thought I'd share.
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Old 25th February 2010 | 21:21
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Help sought - Linux and modern(ish) hardware

Folks

I'm reasonably familiar with *Nix, running Linux and Macs alongside Windows at home but tearing my hair out with this one.

I'm running 3 machines on Win7 RC and need to do something :-). Would love to upgrade them all but can't afford 3x licenses right now so decided to try Linux on my media centre. The PC is a few years old but has had various upgrades to keep it fettling along for media centre use. It runs very nicely under Win7.

My other Linux box is an old clunker, 1.8Ghz AMD Athlon, 1 GB RAM and an old integrated Intel GPU - used only for surfing, email and "futzing". Works fine.

The media PC has an AMD (ATI) Radeon 9800 Pro and a Creative Labs Xfi GamerXtreme sound card. I installed Mythbunutu as the pre-loaded nature of Myth TV onto Ubuntu seemed to make sense, especially as this is a "spouse friendly" media PC and to the very best of my abilities, the OS should be hidden for ever...

The rebuild has been a total pain. It seems that Linux just doesn't get along with ATI cards and getting SPDIF out from the sound card has completely defeated me. I class myself as expert on Windows, competent on *Nix and hardware and have been developing software for years but the archaic 1990's nature of buggering around with ALSA, kernel compiles and similar nonsense has worn me down.

So, the questions I have are:

1. Recognise the need to abandon the ATI but don't want to spend much. It's only a media PC so doesn't need to be a graphics screamer and any cost, added to the time I've wasted, rapidly adds up to the cost of the Windows license I'm trying to avoid. Seems that nVidia is the way to go. Any recommendations for cheap nVidia cards that will fit the bill or other GPU familiies that don't need the personal assistance of Linus Torvalds to get running?

2. Any clues (and yes, I've spent hours in Google) on how to get the SPDIF out running? I don't get any errors and from a UI and configuration perspective, Linux thinks it's enabled but there is nothing coming out of the jack.

3. Is there any advantage to sticking with Linux on my media PC? My original motivation was simply to avoid cost but so far, I have yet to see any advantage, in fact only disadvantages.

4. Given the above, I've had little chance to play with the Myth TV interface. Tried a couple of different skins but it seems to be a long way behind Windows Media Centre. Is this a fair conclusion or should I persevere?

I can get a Windows upgrade license for around £67 and I've already spent many hours trying to get Linux to work but if I have to spend more than about £40 on hardware, I'll just go ahead and buy Windows.

Thanks for any help/clues/pointers....

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Old 26th February 2010 | 17:43
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I would try other flavours of linux using a live OS stick and see if any of the others work out of the box.

For 67 quid its a no brainer..... especially if the mrs uses it...... get the wallet out
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Old 27th February 2010 | 18:45
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Re-installing Windows XP

Background.
I use a Mac, my wife has Windows XP on a Dell Lattitude and my son has LinuxMint 8 on his desk top.
Having been v.impressed by Mint I loaded it onto my neighbour's laptop, taking over the whole disk. Can't remember if she had XP or Vista on it, XP I think.
Anyway, she hates the Linux install and wants XP back.
And I can't. I have read much about MS not recognizing the hard disk and I have tried countless times to reinstall including partitioning in Mint. Then the NTFS formatting is unsuccessful.

Help!!!
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Old 27th February 2010 | 19:42
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low level format using fdisk.

Then try again.
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Old 28th February 2010 | 12:13
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Hi mad_jock.

I tried SuSE, Fedora and Mandrake. No go. Thanks for the suggestion..

£62.50 shelled out for Win7

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Old 2nd March 2010 | 14:56
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If anyone is interested in trying out a relatively newcomer to the Linux distros environment I would recommend Igelle 1.0 The distro comes out of Norway, I believe, is really tightly integrated and contains lots of eye candy.
And it boots up in less than 30 seconds. (On my desktop anyway.)
It comes as a Live CD so you can try it before installing it.

Check it out!!!
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Old 7th March 2010 | 19:57
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Not sure if this is strictly a Linux question
I've got a PC with XP using a Netgear DG834PN Router with encrypted access
I've managed to configure the PC settings etc so the PC works OK
I've got a small ASUS EEE 700 loaded with Linux Xandros but I am not able to 'lock in' the c26 letter alphanumeric WPA code so I can log on painlessly without having to punch in all 26 digits each time
Anyone out there with a similar ASUS able to talk me through how to do it, preferably in the 'noddiest' of terms ?
Thanks
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Old 8th March 2010 | 19:54
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Question Ubuntu & Flash Player

Linux newbie here.

Over the weekend I installed Ubuntu on what had recently been a (broken) Win XP system. This was my first foray into the world of *ix, and the learning curve was fairly steep. The results, so far, have been such that I'm now considering dumping the Win OS completely; but there is just one small problem - Adobe Flash doesn't work.

Trying to install "install_flash_player_10_linux.deb" downloaded from get.adobe dot com gives the message "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'". Admitted, the CPU is AMD64 .. but that hasn't been a problem up to now. Is there a suitable alternative I haven't yet found?

If not, I guess I'll just have to wait for a few days and install Win 7. (Unable to survive without iPlayer etc.).
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Old 8th March 2010 | 22:11
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Trying to install "install_flash_player_10_linux.deb" downloaded from get.adobe dot com gives the message "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'". Admitted, the CPU is AMD64 .. but that hasn't been a problem up to now. Is there a suitable alternative I haven't yet found?

You could install a 32-bit copy of Ubuntu, but that's a massive performance hit. To keep the native 64-bit system you need to do one of two things - install the "32-bit compatability libraries", or find a software repository that includes Flash and will therefore install the whatever libraries it need automagically through the software installer. On my Ubuntu 9.10 system "medibuntu" supplies the non-free/proprietary software andf they have lots of "flash" packages -- can't guarantee they include what you need, but it's a start. Another possible place to check is the Penguin Liberation Front. Google will find tutorials on adding extra repositories to your software installer.

In the Linux world there are some distributions that make it difficult to install proprietary software, as Flash is, and Ubuntu and all other Debian-derived distros are included. The most relaxed distribution that I know for installation of proprietary s/w is Mandriva.


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