WindowsXP and broadband
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...ng/advisor.asp
From what I can see and have read from MS the license you bought when you purchased your machine does qualify for an upgrade.
[ 30 October 2001: Message edited by: What_does_this_button_do? ]
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Keeping Danny in Sandwiches
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Buttons
Sorry to disappoint you, Misco is now selling at £139.99 for an upgrade to Prof. Should have brought it when it was offered.
Found something else that doesn't work on my windowsXP. Left clicking a link opens a new window but leaves it blank with no web page in the address. I have to right click, then select create shortcut and paste into the address line before getting the page.
I thought that they had checked this stuff before launch. The Microsoft website is so overwhelmed that the promised 4 hr response is now 4 days.
"Hibernate" doesn’t seem to work either, other that what Bill Gates is doing at the present time.
[ 30 October 2001: Message edited by: sky9 ]
Sorry to disappoint you, Misco is now selling at £139.99 for an upgrade to Prof. Should have brought it when it was offered.
Found something else that doesn't work on my windowsXP. Left clicking a link opens a new window but leaves it blank with no web page in the address. I have to right click, then select create shortcut and paste into the address line before getting the page.
I thought that they had checked this stuff before launch. The Microsoft website is so overwhelmed that the promised 4 hr response is now 4 days.
"Hibernate" doesn’t seem to work either, other that what Bill Gates is doing at the present time.
[ 30 October 2001: Message edited by: sky9 ]
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Sky9
Found something else that doesn't work on my WindowsXP. Left clicking a link opens a new window but leaves it blank with no web page in the address. I have to right click, then select create shortcut and paste into the address line before getting the page.
I had this problem yesterday and thought that it was a result of finger trouble. Uninstalling IE6 and reinstalling it didn’t work. I ended up using the "System Restore" function to go back two days to my initial installation. This solved the problem.
Some of the other things that have annoyed me are:
1: Norton Anti Virus 2001 doesn’t work with XP, you must upgrade to 2002 at a cost of around US$30.
2: Older CD Writer software doesn’t work, updating this comes at a cost of around US$100.
Apart from those annoyances, I'm extremely happy..... so far..
Mutt
Found something else that doesn't work on my WindowsXP. Left clicking a link opens a new window but leaves it blank with no web page in the address. I have to right click, then select create shortcut and paste into the address line before getting the page.
I had this problem yesterday and thought that it was a result of finger trouble. Uninstalling IE6 and reinstalling it didn’t work. I ended up using the "System Restore" function to go back two days to my initial installation. This solved the problem.
Some of the other things that have annoyed me are:
1: Norton Anti Virus 2001 doesn’t work with XP, you must upgrade to 2002 at a cost of around US$30.
2: Older CD Writer software doesn’t work, updating this comes at a cost of around US$100.
Apart from those annoyances, I'm extremely happy..... so far..
Mutt
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Hello there EVO 7,
I'll certainly remain in the hold, whilst you do the business.....thanks !
One way or the other I want to get this machine of mine on an even keel and stable, so if your "upgrade" works I shall follow you good example.
W-D-T-B-D,
Many thanks as well.
I'll wait and see what EVO 7 reports in with, before I take the plunge.
Thanks chaps,
TG
I'll certainly remain in the hold, whilst you do the business.....thanks !
One way or the other I want to get this machine of mine on an even keel and stable, so if your "upgrade" works I shall follow you good example.
W-D-T-B-D,
Many thanks as well.
I'll wait and see what EVO 7 reports in with, before I take the plunge.
Thanks chaps,
TG
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For what it's worth, 'XP Home Edition' works well for me, but...
1) Intel PC Cam no longer usable.
2) External USB modem as above.
XP doesn't like sites that offer downloads that may utilise driver upgrades from either 98SE or Win2000. I attempted this once and ignored the warnings. Bad move, and I ended up scrubbing the time consuming downloads despite the recommendations that these sites promote being XP compatible.
1) Intel PC Cam no longer usable.
2) External USB modem as above.
XP doesn't like sites that offer downloads that may utilise driver upgrades from either 98SE or Win2000. I attempted this once and ignored the warnings. Bad move, and I ended up scrubbing the time consuming downloads despite the recommendations that these sites promote being XP compatible.
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For what it is worth I have just installed XP on my laptop (300 with 125K) it runs much faster sound better but modem not recognised and USB dongle (I run some funny software) does not work. These I am sure will be resolved soon. These aside I am impressed so far!
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Bad news, I'm afraid. When I booted the new machine off the WinXP CD it claimed that no valid O/S was found on the hard disk (preinstalled with Win98se) and wouldn't accept the recover CD as valid either.
However, it happily accepted my Win98 CD, so I guess that pre-installed versions of Win98 really aren't accepted. One thing that I didn't try was to boot into Win98 and then run the upgrade from the CD. That might still work.
First impressions are very positive, although I haven't run it for long enough to see how solid it is. It flies, but then again a P4-1.8GHz with 1Gb of memory should...
Bad news, I'm afraid. When I booted the new machine off the WinXP CD it claimed that no valid O/S was found on the hard disk (preinstalled with Win98se) and wouldn't accept the recover CD as valid either.
However, it happily accepted my Win98 CD, so I guess that pre-installed versions of Win98 really aren't accepted. One thing that I didn't try was to boot into Win98 and then run the upgrade from the CD. That might still work.
First impressions are very positive, although I haven't run it for long enough to see how solid it is. It flies, but then again a P4-1.8GHz with 1Gb of memory should...
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Evo7
So you are saying that anyone that purchased a new PC with loaded Microsoft software CAN’T upgrade to XP? I’m glad that I didn’t try loading XP on my laptop!
Mutt
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So you are saying that anyone that purchased a new PC with loaded Microsoft software CAN’T upgrade to XP? I’m glad that I didn’t try loading XP on my laptop!
Mutt
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mutt
Not saying that you can't, but I couldn't. I had a preinstalled, happily bootable copy of Win98se on the hard disk but the XP upgrade would not install on my machine. Just said that no valid OS was found for upgrade. It wouldn't accept the recovery CD as qualifying either.
Your milage may vary, of course.
Not saying that you can't, but I couldn't. I had a preinstalled, happily bootable copy of Win98se on the hard disk but the XP upgrade would not install on my machine. Just said that no valid OS was found for upgrade. It wouldn't accept the recovery CD as qualifying either.
Your milage may vary, of course.
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Hello there EVO7,
Many thanks for the info on the upgrade.
Sounds like I'll have to buy the full version then....bit of a pity.
I think I'll wait and see what offers of new machines come along at Xmas.
Your machine sounds like lightning....I don't know anybody with 1GB of memory......phew !!
Thanks again
Many thanks for the info on the upgrade.
Sounds like I'll have to buy the full version then....bit of a pity.
I think I'll wait and see what offers of new machines come along at Xmas.
Your machine sounds like lightning....I don't know anybody with 1GB of memory......phew !!
Thanks again
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I hope that I have solved the mouse problem
A usefull update buried in the Microsoft website give an intellimouse update that is very good. http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo...32611%26redire ct%3Dno
Also for those updating from Norton Systemworks, don't attempt to update until you have uninstalled 2001, update XP then install 2002.
As a matter of interest walking down the Tottenham Court Road I managed to buy an upgrade of NSW2002 for £29.99 at MicroAndvika http://www.microanvika.co.uk/
In other shops the update was not available and full product about £60.
A usefull update buried in the Microsoft website give an intellimouse update that is very good. http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo...32611%26redire ct%3Dno
Also for those updating from Norton Systemworks, don't attempt to update until you have uninstalled 2001, update XP then install 2002.
As a matter of interest walking down the Tottenham Court Road I managed to buy an upgrade of NSW2002 for £29.99 at MicroAndvika http://www.microanvika.co.uk/
In other shops the update was not available and full product about £60.
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Upandaway,
I think you will find (certainly with previous versions of Windows ) that you were permitted to install it on multiple machines but they couldn't used simultaneously.
This could answer your "Can I install it on my home system and my laptop?" question. However, if your downroute using the laptop and Mrs. Upandaway is at home using the desktop then this is classed as a breach of the licencing agreement.
They would have a pretty hard time proving it unless their is more to XP than MS are letting on, which would not be unheardof from our friends in Redmond.
Whooaahh!!!
I think you will find (certainly with previous versions of Windows ) that you were permitted to install it on multiple machines but they couldn't used simultaneously.
This could answer your "Can I install it on my home system and my laptop?" question. However, if your downroute using the laptop and Mrs. Upandaway is at home using the desktop then this is classed as a breach of the licencing agreement.
They would have a pretty hard time proving it unless their is more to XP than MS are letting on, which would not be unheardof from our friends in Redmond.
Whooaahh!!!
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mutt: I installed XP Home Edition Upgrade from 98SE. Apart from my previous posts, all went well, unlike my attempt with ME! Having said that, if yourself or anyone else reading this is running a web cam based on 98, then XP probably won't accept it, despite what cam sites state. Retailers I have spoken to recently are furious that their stock of good quality PC cams are not suitable to XP, and that consumers (like self!) run out and purchase this new OS "because it was there"...
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Mango3,
I hope that you enjoy XP, I have, its a nice interface.
But like you, I have ran into driver problems with a cheap webcam, CD writer and Norton Anti-Virus.
The Norton problem is the only one which I have really solved so far, I purchased Anti Virus 2002.
The CD writer is annoying me, the required/desired software is available for a 90 trial, but carries a $99 purchase price. This leads me towards the idea of buying a NEW CD writer which will have the software bundled in.
I'm going shopping over the weekend in the Dubai Duty Free for a Nikon Coolpix 990, which will be used on a new Dell Laptop with XP. (Not for me) It will be interesting to see if this top of the range camera comes with the proper drivers!!!!
Good Luck.
Mutt. (Dreaming of the Guinness tent at the DXB airshow...)
I hope that you enjoy XP, I have, its a nice interface.
But like you, I have ran into driver problems with a cheap webcam, CD writer and Norton Anti-Virus.
The Norton problem is the only one which I have really solved so far, I purchased Anti Virus 2002.
The CD writer is annoying me, the required/desired software is available for a 90 trial, but carries a $99 purchase price. This leads me towards the idea of buying a NEW CD writer which will have the software bundled in.
I'm going shopping over the weekend in the Dubai Duty Free for a Nikon Coolpix 990, which will be used on a new Dell Laptop with XP. (Not for me) It will be interesting to see if this top of the range camera comes with the proper drivers!!!!
Good Luck.
Mutt. (Dreaming of the Guinness tent at the DXB airshow...)
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upupnaway On a different note i believe you have to contact Microsoft to activate XP and they only allow this on one computer. How can i get installed on both my home pc and laptop, will Microsoft let you do this ???? any one come across this yet.
If you try to install XP on a different pc, producing a new hardware identifier, a dialog box will pop up asking you to call an operator and explain the discrepancy. If satisfied with your response (MS says it will give users the benefit of the doubt), the operator will issue a new certificate.
If you have a network card and leave it alone, you should be able to remove or replace upto 6 other signature elements without triggering activation, MS says, otherwise, you can change up to 4 other elements before having to contact MS. Adding components never triggers a challenge.
Importantly, WPA resets after 120 days, using whatever you have then as the activated configuration. So after 4 months you can install XP on a second PC, activate it and keep the first one operating without falling foul of WPA.
Doing so would violate the licence, but MS is probably wise in cutting some slack here.
Hope that you find that useful.
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Just for some who face problems.
The Win XP CD is a bootable one. This is also given with the upgrade version!
If you face the problem that "no valid OS found" or, as it happens at a friends machine, your original Win 98 is a HP version (maybe any other operator) than this Win CD is NOT ACCEPTABLE as XP cannot find the Windows directory when asked to provide the original upgradeable version...
You nee a clean Windows 95/98/ME or whatsoever and than it does it.
While we are at it, make sure that you have backed up everything before upgrading. There is a good chance that it does some kind of "clean" install, it whipes all off the disk and you have a NTFS file system, no FAT anymore...makes it a bit more interesting to find one of the sometimes so useful unformat or undelete programs.
The Win XP CD is a bootable one. This is also given with the upgrade version!
If you face the problem that "no valid OS found" or, as it happens at a friends machine, your original Win 98 is a HP version (maybe any other operator) than this Win CD is NOT ACCEPTABLE as XP cannot find the Windows directory when asked to provide the original upgradeable version...
You nee a clean Windows 95/98/ME or whatsoever and than it does it.
While we are at it, make sure that you have backed up everything before upgrading. There is a good chance that it does some kind of "clean" install, it whipes all off the disk and you have a NTFS file system, no FAT anymore...makes it a bit more interesting to find one of the sometimes so useful unformat or undelete programs.
