Grisoft AVG v8
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MacBoero,
Sorry for the thread drift. Just could not let that pass.
The latest AVG 8 includes the antispyware application. In theory, this should improve detection and cleaning abilities. Personally, I'd feel OK with it, if there weren't others around that suit me better. Include a good two way firewall and any user should be reasonably well protected.
PPilcher, For a true "set and forget" application...sorry, there really isn't one. Stuff changes all the time, malware methods keep evolving, new vulnerabilities are uncovered in MS and third party software all too frequently. (This is why MS release security updates every month, sometimes more often.)
Norton360 is offered as a "set and forget" program, but I keep reading and hearing of folk who have problems with it. Too often it gets a bit overprotective, and quarantines something that's required.
Kaspersky (since it's been mentioned) does have a very good name. They make AV (The KAV mentioned above) and a suite called KIS. Some users report slowdowns, the majority appear to be very happy with it.
Other (free) alternatives include the one this thread is named for, Avast (rates very well, also includes AS, never given a problem here,) and Avira.
HIPS is considered a particularly good method of preventing malware loading. Instead of blacklist-based scanning (definitions) it simply alerts to unknown applications wantiing to run/access something that could lead to harm, if malicious. They do tend to require a lot more user interaction. One that doesn't pop too many alerts up, at default settings, is PCTools Threatfire. (Bottom right of the page for the free version.)
The latest version of Boclean, although based again on blacklists, is pretty much set and forget. If a known trojan attempts to load, it will pop an alert. It doesn't scan, only alerts to something attempting to run in memory. Include a demand scanner or two, like Superantispyware, update and run it once a week (or if "symptoms" occur), include a good two way firewall (see Here for some tests) and anyone should be fairly secure. For now, anyway. Also important, of course, to backup data regularly, should a reformat/reinstall ever become necessary. Encrypt any really sensitive data.
djMcrae, I was not boldly promoting AVG8, it's not actually my cup of tea. I was defending it (and, by association, some other freeware generally) from an unwarranted accusation. And I'll continue to do so.
Regarding your edit, believe it or not, there are organizations that monitor the behaviour of security (or any) software. Programs that fall into the category you describe are defined as rogue. Spyware warrior, run by Eric Howes, maintains a large online database of these. AVG most definitely is not included on that list. They'd be out of business in a shot. Do your homework.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you're talking rubbish. [edit] It also seems you are suggesting obtaining a cracked version of the software, by the "torrentable" comment. Anybody who does this is probably going to get exactly what is deserved.
Sorry for the thread drift. Just could not let that pass.
The latest AVG 8 includes the antispyware application. In theory, this should improve detection and cleaning abilities. Personally, I'd feel OK with it, if there weren't others around that suit me better. Include a good two way firewall and any user should be reasonably well protected.
PPilcher, For a true "set and forget" application...sorry, there really isn't one. Stuff changes all the time, malware methods keep evolving, new vulnerabilities are uncovered in MS and third party software all too frequently. (This is why MS release security updates every month, sometimes more often.)
Norton360 is offered as a "set and forget" program, but I keep reading and hearing of folk who have problems with it. Too often it gets a bit overprotective, and quarantines something that's required.
Kaspersky (since it's been mentioned) does have a very good name. They make AV (The KAV mentioned above) and a suite called KIS. Some users report slowdowns, the majority appear to be very happy with it.
Other (free) alternatives include the one this thread is named for, Avast (rates very well, also includes AS, never given a problem here,) and Avira.
HIPS is considered a particularly good method of preventing malware loading. Instead of blacklist-based scanning (definitions) it simply alerts to unknown applications wantiing to run/access something that could lead to harm, if malicious. They do tend to require a lot more user interaction. One that doesn't pop too many alerts up, at default settings, is PCTools Threatfire. (Bottom right of the page for the free version.)
The latest version of Boclean, although based again on blacklists, is pretty much set and forget. If a known trojan attempts to load, it will pop an alert. It doesn't scan, only alerts to something attempting to run in memory. Include a demand scanner or two, like Superantispyware, update and run it once a week (or if "symptoms" occur), include a good two way firewall (see Here for some tests) and anyone should be fairly secure. For now, anyway. Also important, of course, to backup data regularly, should a reformat/reinstall ever become necessary. Encrypt any really sensitive data.
djMcrae, I was not boldly promoting AVG8, it's not actually my cup of tea. I was defending it (and, by association, some other freeware generally) from an unwarranted accusation. And I'll continue to do so.
Regarding your edit, believe it or not, there are organizations that monitor the behaviour of security (or any) software. Programs that fall into the category you describe are defined as rogue. Spyware warrior, run by Eric Howes, maintains a large online database of these. AVG most definitely is not included on that list. They'd be out of business in a shot. Do your homework.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you're talking rubbish. [edit] It also seems you are suggesting obtaining a cracked version of the software, by the "torrentable" comment. Anybody who does this is probably going to get exactly what is deserved.
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And there is some comparative data here...
http://www.av-comparatives.org/
The latest comparative data is here...
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seite...se_2008_02.php
http://www.av-comparatives.org/
The latest comparative data is here...
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seite...se_2008_02.php
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From: UK
Latest from AVG is that 'support' for 7.5 (I presume virus updates) will cease soon.
It may be something else on my machine
but I feel that internet, email and general programmes are running slower after installation of 8. Anyone else agree? I guess it is checking more than 7.5 did.
It may be something else on my machine
but I feel that internet, email and general programmes are running slower after installation of 8. Anyone else agree? I guess it is checking more than 7.5 did.
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From: due south
I am using AVG 7.5 which is the free version, their website says version 8 costs US$55.
If they stop supporting 7.5 soon presumably that means the end of the free version, and I will have to look at getting something else.
If they stop supporting 7.5 soon presumably that means the end of the free version, and I will have to look at getting something else.
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From: Chabanais, France
Henry, this is a free bee and is said to be very good, came out well in the tests etc.
http://www.free-av.com/
http://www.free-av.com/
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Bushfiva: I realise that 7.5 is still in their website, but I was commenting on BOAC's post.
If they stop supporting it with virus updates it will rapidly become valueless.
Thanks parabellum, I will certainly look at that if 7.5 does become outdated
If they stop supporting it with virus updates it will rapidly become valueless.
Thanks parabellum, I will certainly look at that if 7.5 does become outdated
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From: Wellington,NZ
henry crun, it's more of a marketing technique. There is/will be a free version of 8.0, I guess Grisoft would prefer you to buy the full featured version, so make that option easier than locating the download for the free version. But I can assure you, it's still there. http://free.grisoft.com/ww.download-...s-free-edition
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From: London, England
It is admittedly not as obvious as it used to be, when they linked to the free version from the Grisoft homepage.
Once you know though, it's as easy as:
free.avg.com
or
free.grisoft.com
Once you know though, it's as easy as:
free.avg.com
or
free.grisoft.com
