Opera or IE? Your thoughts please.....
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Opera or IE? Your thoughts please.....
Hi all. What is the opinion of Opera against IE?
I am getting a little bit peed off with it at the moment and am thinking of going to Opera. The security issues from MS seem to appear all the time and mine is quite unstable. Just 5 min's ago when writing the original post for this, a warning came up saying "Internet Explorer has encountered a problem and has closed dowm etc, etc, etc.........."
Would I still be able to use Outlook Express for e-mails?
Anyhow, I am thinking of cutting my losses and going for it so any advice, thoughs etc will be appreciated.
I am getting a little bit peed off with it at the moment and am thinking of going to Opera. The security issues from MS seem to appear all the time and mine is quite unstable. Just 5 min's ago when writing the original post for this, a warning came up saying "Internet Explorer has encountered a problem and has closed dowm etc, etc, etc.........."
Would I still be able to use Outlook Express for e-mails?
Anyhow, I am thinking of cutting my losses and going for it so any advice, thoughs etc will be appreciated.
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Hi Henry. I do not know much about Eudora to be honest. If it comes with Opera and does the same job, i.e lets me check multiple e-mail accounts then I will go with it.
I just want to know if it is worth taking such a big step.
I just want to know if it is worth taking such a big step.
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I would recommend Opera over IE every time. The Multiple document interface of Opera means that you can have email/several browser sessions all open in the same window. Its email has a slightly strange way of filing, but it can handle multiple accounts. When you get used to it, I feel it is better than OExpress and Eudora. Best of all about Opera, is that it is soooo damned fast !!
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Opera..
Agree with phnuff
Opera is my preferred browser on M$ platforms. However, I ought to point out that some sites make use of M$ specific "features" which makes them less through un- useable by other browsers. This is, of course, completely and utterly at odds with the fundamental principles of the web (but I'll leave that rant for another thread
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Big win is it's dead easy to turn off popups if you don't want them (most of the time) and quickly turn them on for the odd site when you do
Opera sometimes have a tendency to roll new releases out just a little too quickly, so personally, I go for the last release of Version 6 for now.
HTH
Opera is my preferred browser on M$ platforms. However, I ought to point out that some sites make use of M$ specific "features" which makes them less through un- useable by other browsers. This is, of course, completely and utterly at odds with the fundamental principles of the web (but I'll leave that rant for another thread
)Big win is it's dead easy to turn off popups if you don't want them (most of the time) and quickly turn them on for the odd site when you do
Opera sometimes have a tendency to roll new releases out just a little too quickly, so personally, I go for the last release of Version 6 for now.
HTH
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Started using Opera a couple of days ago and trying to get used to it. Different but nice (as the actress said to the bishop).
Not convinced it's that much quicker and it costs money - still, there is a 35% discount if you get both the M$ and Linux versions, so I guess I'll go for it.
Not sure about the email though - I use Outlook 98 which I'm very used to and I need a scheduler - also it seems that Opera may be a bit flaky with Mailwasher which I have to have because of the huge volumes of span I get.
But anything really to strike a blow against the EVIL EMPIRE!
Not convinced it's that much quicker and it costs money - still, there is a 35% discount if you get both the M$ and Linux versions, so I guess I'll go for it.
Not sure about the email though - I use Outlook 98 which I'm very used to and I need a scheduler - also it seems that Opera may be a bit flaky with Mailwasher which I have to have because of the huge volumes of span I get.
But anything really to strike a blow against the EVIL EMPIRE!
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I am a great Opera fan. On my PC it is much, much faster than IE.
In fact I can open a page in IE, get frustrated at the wait, go to Opera, type in the URL and Opera will still get there before IE.
There are some pages with lots of cleverness that simply don't run in Opera (particularly swizzy .NET/Java Applet stuffy) so you need IE in reserve for them, but in 99% of cases Opera beats IE in every respect. It's not just the MDI, but the flexible navigation pane, the flexible searches, the wand...the list is endless...but above all, it either doesn't have the security holes of IE or (just as likely) the pathetic w@nkers who write worms and viruses don't aim at Opera cos it ain't so much fun.
As far as eMail goes, I'm actually quite happy with OE. It does everything I want and need, so I stick with it.
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In fact I can open a page in IE, get frustrated at the wait, go to Opera, type in the URL and Opera will still get there before IE.
There are some pages with lots of cleverness that simply don't run in Opera (particularly swizzy .NET/Java Applet stuffy) so you need IE in reserve for them, but in 99% of cases Opera beats IE in every respect. It's not just the MDI, but the flexible navigation pane, the flexible searches, the wand...the list is endless...but above all, it either doesn't have the security holes of IE or (just as likely) the pathetic w@nkers who write worms and viruses don't aim at Opera cos it ain't so much fun.
As far as eMail goes, I'm actually quite happy with OE. It does everything I want and need, so I stick with it.
W
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BRL,
You can make Opera your default internet browser and just use IE when Opera does not display the page properly. That way you get a solution that is best suited to your needs.
When it comes to email, I use Netscape 4.79. It is a very good email client and it is so old that most viruses do not target it.
For the business we use Eudora Pro, we have been using it since it was first released in the early 90s. It is an excellent email client for managing the 100s of emails the company gets a day.
My wife, for home use, really likes IncrediMail. It is a great program for sending fun emails.
Take Care,
Richard
You can make Opera your default internet browser and just use IE when Opera does not display the page properly. That way you get a solution that is best suited to your needs.
When it comes to email, I use Netscape 4.79. It is a very good email client and it is so old that most viruses do not target it.
For the business we use Eudora Pro, we have been using it since it was first released in the early 90s. It is an excellent email client for managing the 100s of emails the company gets a day.
My wife, for home use, really likes IncrediMail. It is a great program for sending fun emails.
Take Care,
Richard
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I strongly recommend you avoid IE.
You can use either Opera or Mozilla:
http://www.mozilla.org/ or
http://www.opera.com/
It is not a big step at all. You do not have to un-install Internet Explorer. If you wish, you can return to Internet Explorer at any time by clicking on the icon.
Mozilla, from time to time, will require plug ins that are readily available from the website.
For reason that I do not like Internet Exlorer, go to to http://www.****microsoft.com/content...en-files.shtml
The four stars hide what you want to do to your wife, girlfriend or boss...but it is worth reading.
I would also not recommend Outlook or Outlook Express, for the same reasons.
You can use either Opera or Mozilla:
http://www.mozilla.org/ or
http://www.opera.com/
It is not a big step at all. You do not have to un-install Internet Explorer. If you wish, you can return to Internet Explorer at any time by clicking on the icon.
Mozilla, from time to time, will require plug ins that are readily available from the website.
For reason that I do not like Internet Exlorer, go to to http://www.****microsoft.com/content...en-files.shtml
The four stars hide what you want to do to your wife, girlfriend or boss...but it is worth reading.
I would also not recommend Outlook or Outlook Express, for the same reasons.
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I am a bit surprised by that as I use both Opera and my mouse wheel on a daily basis. What version of Opera have you installed ?
my mouse wheel does not work with Opera
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Hi all. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my question here, much appreciated.
I am going to download the free V.7 and try that for a week or two and if I am happy with it I will buy it.
I have just discovered a trojan horse on my computer. Would I still get them and other viruses using Opera?
Thanks again,
Paul.
I am going to download the free V.7 and try that for a week or two and if I am happy with it I will buy it.
I have just discovered a trojan horse on my computer. Would I still get them and other viruses using Opera?
Thanks again,
Paul.
Bit late in on this, but another thumbs-up for Opera, for all the reasons given above.
It takes a little getting used to, but once the effort is put in it really shows up IE to be the slow & crude bug-ridden POS it is.
I can't live without Opera's Mouse Gestures now.
It takes a little getting used to, but once the effort is put in it really shows up IE to be the slow & crude bug-ridden POS it is.
I can't live without Opera's Mouse Gestures now.
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Does your mouse wheel work with other software (IE or other)
I had a look at the Opera support pages and found a rather cryptic parameter that might help.
"YNPStickInstalledOverride" to be added in the Opera6.ini file in the [user preferences] section.
This requires that your can find the file and use a text editor (Notepad or Wordpad will do).
I'm not sure if this can help, but at least it seems to be inoccuous (sp?) in my case.
Insert "YNPStickInstalledOverride=0" (one line) at the end of the [user preferences] section of the file. Don't know what values are appropriate (would try 0 & 1).
see http://www.opera.com/support/usingopera/operaini/ for more details
Good luck
Does your mouse wheel work with other software (IE or other)
I had a look at the Opera support pages and found a rather cryptic parameter that might help.
"YNPStickInstalledOverride" to be added in the Opera6.ini file in the [user preferences] section.
This requires that your can find the file and use a text editor (Notepad or Wordpad will do).
I'm not sure if this can help, but at least it seems to be inoccuous (sp?) in my case.
Insert "YNPStickInstalledOverride=0" (one line) at the end of the [user preferences] section of the file. Don't know what values are appropriate (would try 0 & 1).
see http://www.opera.com/support/usingopera/operaini/ for more details
Good luck
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Maybe you should look at this first : I found out that the mouse wheel in Opera works only if the cursor is in the web page and NOT in the various toolbars.
Maybe you should look at this first : I found out that the mouse wheel in Opera works only if the cursor is in the web page and NOT in the various toolbars.
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I like Opera but keep going back to IE because my mouse wheel does not work with Opera. Try without it sometime and it is sooo frustrating!
I found out that the mouse wheel in Opera works only if the cursor is in the web page and NOT in the various toolbars.
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W98 Opera 7.1
I tried adding the extra line to the ini file and it made no difference.
I used the earlier version of Opera and it was the same, the mouse wheel did not work.
This is a free unregistered version of Opera....would this make a difference?
I tried adding the extra line to the ini file and it made no difference.
I used the earlier version of Opera and it was the same, the mouse wheel did not work.
This is a free unregistered version of Opera....would this make a difference?