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BRAAAAAZIL!
Brazil look like an up and coming econemy in the world, hosting the world cup soon, so obviously air travel will get crazy. I want to get in on the action, but I can't decipher exacly what's required to fly there. all lost in acronyms and poor translations.
I have an JAA f\ATPL and less than 1000 houyrs bif jet time.
Can anyone out there tell me what the situation is like? Are they hiring Europeans? What sort of license conversions will I need, what are your experiences?! ?
I have an JAA f\ATPL and less than 1000 houyrs bif jet time.
Can anyone out there tell me what the situation is like? Are they hiring Europeans? What sort of license conversions will I need, what are your experiences?! ?
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Hi Hank,
To fly in Brazil commercially you have to be brazilian or naturalized and hold an ANAC (brazilian authority) CPL license. Companies do not hire foreigns and to say the true, airliners in Brazil are doing quite bad lately.
All the best and good luck,
Sydy
To fly in Brazil commercially you have to be brazilian or naturalized and hold an ANAC (brazilian authority) CPL license. Companies do not hire foreigns and to say the true, airliners in Brazil are doing quite bad lately.
All the best and good luck,
Sydy
Brazil has a very active general aviation field to support their airlines. Very doubtful anyone who is not a citizen or otherwise has the righ to work there is getting a job flying there. Very protective immigration rules.
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GF,
You are correct. No foreigners can work flying a brazilian tail number due to brazilian laws and regulations. We had cases here that several brazilian owners had N tail airplanes, but even in those cases, they hired brazilians to fly it.
General aviation is very, very active and it's the second helicopter fleet in the world, switching positions in this second place with Mexico, once in a while. The local manufacturer, Embraer, sold more than 130 Phenoms 100, 300 and Legacys 600 and 650s here. Salaries are even better than USA, but the cost of living is higher as well. Cessna, Bombardier and Gulstream also have a good market here.
The only way to bite this cake is to be brazilian or naturalized.
All the best,
Sydy
You are correct. No foreigners can work flying a brazilian tail number due to brazilian laws and regulations. We had cases here that several brazilian owners had N tail airplanes, but even in those cases, they hired brazilians to fly it.
General aviation is very, very active and it's the second helicopter fleet in the world, switching positions in this second place with Mexico, once in a while. The local manufacturer, Embraer, sold more than 130 Phenoms 100, 300 and Legacys 600 and 650s here. Salaries are even better than USA, but the cost of living is higher as well. Cessna, Bombardier and Gulstream also have a good market here.
The only way to bite this cake is to be brazilian or naturalized.
All the best,
Sydy
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Congrats you sunk my hope of Brazil in record time. I should be used to disappointment in this profession.
Well tell me is there anywhere on that southern continent that might give a job too a foreign boy like me, without marrying one of the ladies.
Well tell me is there anywhere on that southern continent that might give a job too a foreign boy like me, without marrying one of the ladies.
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Hey Hank,
I'll switch passports and licenses with you in a heart beat. Currently on the 777 and looking to go back to the States. My dream of flying here quickly became a nightmare……..
VF
I'll switch passports and licenses with you in a heart beat. Currently on the 777 and looking to go back to the States. My dream of flying here quickly became a nightmare……..
VF
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Hi guys...
On the foreseeable future, I very much doubt that anyone could change the law in what comes to expat pilot hiring here in Brazil.
There are many type rated pilots (from GOL, TAM and WEBJET) furloughed due to the poor economic growth of the country and mostly because of the huge amount of government taxes that the companies have to pay.
So, my advice is: don't waste your time looking for a job here. Even for brazilian citizens, I believe that will be hard to get hired on the next 2 years...
On the foreseeable future, I very much doubt that anyone could change the law in what comes to expat pilot hiring here in Brazil.
There are many type rated pilots (from GOL, TAM and WEBJET) furloughed due to the poor economic growth of the country and mostly because of the huge amount of government taxes that the companies have to pay.
So, my advice is: don't waste your time looking for a job here. Even for brazilian citizens, I believe that will be hard to get hired on the next 2 years...
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Hank
Naturalised does not mean married. I am married in Brazil, have a child here and all the paperwork that comes with being a legal resident. I have no chance of commercial employment. I have been here for three years, and need another 4 (at least) before I can even start the naturalisation process which will take at least another two years from start to finish.
Naturalised does not mean married. I am married in Brazil, have a child here and all the paperwork that comes with being a legal resident. I have no chance of commercial employment. I have been here for three years, and need another 4 (at least) before I can even start the naturalisation process which will take at least another two years from start to finish.
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There are currently over 600 pilots (with airline experience) on the street in Brazil, this without counting the ones that are active outside Brazil.
GA aviation is not as big as you may think, it is very active in some regions, but overall especially fixed wings the market is very small. Most of the private jets sold most of the time just sit around, same thing for the many piper Meridian/Matrix/Seneca. The amount of hours they fly per year often does not allow for a full time pilot.
I fly in the Amazon basin, and there aren't really that many GAs aircrafts on Amazonica, compared to what we have here in this country the size of the state of Amapa.
I was once also very exited about Brazil.
GA aviation is not as big as you may think, it is very active in some regions, but overall especially fixed wings the market is very small. Most of the private jets sold most of the time just sit around, same thing for the many piper Meridian/Matrix/Seneca. The amount of hours they fly per year often does not allow for a full time pilot.
I fly in the Amazon basin, and there aren't really that many GAs aircrafts on Amazonica, compared to what we have here in this country the size of the state of Amapa.
I was once also very exited about Brazil.