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hank delmonte 1st Dec 2013 14:47

BRAAAAAZIL!
 
Brazil look like an up and coming econemy in the world, hosting the world cup soon, so obviously air travel will get crazy. I want to get in on the action, but I can't decipher exacly what's required to fly there. all lost in acronyms and poor translations.

I have an JAA f\ATPL and less than 1000 houyrs bif jet time.
Can anyone out there tell me what the situation is like? Are they hiring Europeans? What sort of license conversions will I need, what are your experiences?! ?

Sydy 1st Dec 2013 15:12

Hi Hank,

To fly in Brazil commercially you have to be brazilian or naturalized and hold an ANAC (brazilian authority) CPL license. Companies do not hire foreigns and to say the true, airliners in Brazil are doing quite bad lately.

All the best and good luck,

Sydy

trancada 1st Dec 2013 19:54

I go quite often there, and their standart's are very low, ATC is something disasterous.

3holer 1st Dec 2013 21:22

trancada
disasterous is your spelling:ugh:

mentorbz 3rd Dec 2013 20:57

the standart's are disasterous hahahahahaha

galaxy flyer 3rd Dec 2013 23:34

Brazil has a very active general aviation field to support their airlines. Very doubtful anyone who is not a citizen or otherwise has the righ to work there is getting a job flying there. Very protective immigration rules.

GF

Sydy 4th Dec 2013 06:23

GF,

You are correct. No foreigners can work flying a brazilian tail number due to brazilian laws and regulations. We had cases here that several brazilian owners had N tail airplanes, but even in those cases, they hired brazilians to fly it.

General aviation is very, very active and it's the second helicopter fleet in the world, switching positions in this second place with Mexico, once in a while. The local manufacturer, Embraer, sold more than 130 Phenoms 100, 300 and Legacys 600 and 650s here. Salaries are even better than USA, but the cost of living is higher as well. Cessna, Bombardier and Gulstream also have a good market here.

The only way to bite this cake is to be brazilian or naturalized.

All the best,

Sydy

Soave_Pilot 7th Dec 2013 13:54

A lot of media talk and not enough action.
Things are not as good as media and rumors say.
Just being realistic.

hank delmonte 11th Dec 2013 17:17

Congrats you sunk my hope of Brazil in record time. I should be used to disappointment in this profession.

Well tell me is there anywhere on that southern continent that might give a job too a foreign boy like me, without marrying one of the ladies.

Sydy 11th Dec 2013 18:58

Hank,

Sorry, but true is usually hard to diggest. Maybe Chile hires expats, but you probably have to speak spanish.

Good luck,

Sydy

varigflier 13th Dec 2013 00:13

Hey Hank,

I'll switch passports and licenses with you in a heart beat. Currently on the 777 and looking to go back to the States. My dream of flying here quickly became a nightmare……..

VF

rsbessa 3rd Jan 2014 23:28

Hi guys...

On the foreseeable future, I very much doubt that anyone could change the law in what comes to expat pilot hiring here in Brazil.

There are many type rated pilots (from GOL, TAM and WEBJET) furloughed due to the poor economic growth of the country and mostly because of the huge amount of government taxes that the companies have to pay.

So, my advice is: don't waste your time looking for a job here. Even for brazilian citizens, I believe that will be hard to get hired on the next 2 years...

JumpJumpJump 16th Jan 2014 08:03

Hank

Naturalised does not mean married. I am married in Brazil, have a child here and all the paperwork that comes with being a legal resident. I have no chance of commercial employment. I have been here for three years, and need another 4 (at least) before I can even start the naturalisation process which will take at least another two years from start to finish.

flyingswiss 20th Jan 2014 20:39

There are currently over 600 pilots (with airline experience) on the street in Brazil, this without counting the ones that are active outside Brazil.

GA aviation is not as big as you may think, it is very active in some regions, but overall especially fixed wings the market is very small. Most of the private jets sold most of the time just sit around, same thing for the many piper Meridian/Matrix/Seneca. The amount of hours they fly per year often does not allow for a full time pilot.

I fly in the Amazon basin, and there aren't really that many GAs aircrafts on Amazonica, compared to what we have here in this country the size of the state of Amapa.

I was once also very exited about Brazil.


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