LAN PERU Captains Program
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Spanish Required
I FOUND OUT AT LANPERU,SPANISH IS REQUIRED.
DO YOU SPEAK AND WRITE SPANISH?
THESE GUYS ARE INTEND TO COME TO MIAMI AT AEROSERVICE FOR A JOB FAIR TO HIRE PILOTS.
THE LANGUAGE IN USA
IS ENGLISH.
FOR GOD SAKE.
DO YOU SPEAK AND WRITE SPANISH?
THESE GUYS ARE INTEND TO COME TO MIAMI AT AEROSERVICE FOR A JOB FAIR TO HIRE PILOTS.
THE LANGUAGE IN USA
IS ENGLISH.FOR GOD SAKE.
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Well...... if you fly under FAA rules you must speak English, so why not speak spanish under Peruvian DGAC? it's more than obvious.....the world doesn't end at the Gulf of Mexico
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US or Europe, the economics allow for more 'home grown self sponsored pilots' that want to work for airline. Hence less Peruvians who qualify.
Where I am now in Argentina, one Peruvian guy just got his ANAC CPL/ME/IR, two others starting their training now. I'm told that one of them at least, does only PPL here, and the rest would be sponsorship. I don't see into details, if it's common or not.
Anyway, some Argentinos hope for FO job with LAN Peru as the minimums to get hired, hours and paperwork, Commercial primera clase etc, are much more time consuming and expensive, paying for 500 hours to get instructor ticket to be able to build more hours to enter airline..
I guess stuff you all know anyway, being in touch with Latin aviation.
No big deal, for gringo like me, to speak good Spanish, including aviation terms.
Where I am now in Argentina, one Peruvian guy just got his ANAC CPL/ME/IR, two others starting their training now. I'm told that one of them at least, does only PPL here, and the rest would be sponsorship. I don't see into details, if it's common or not.
Anyway, some Argentinos hope for FO job with LAN Peru as the minimums to get hired, hours and paperwork, Commercial primera clase etc, are much more time consuming and expensive, paying for 500 hours to get instructor ticket to be able to build more hours to enter airline..
I guess stuff you all know anyway, being in touch with Latin aviation.
No big deal, for gringo like me, to speak good Spanish, including aviation terms.
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Good for you Petereprug, so I guess the competition you are referring to is TACA Peru? Will that be on the ERJ or Bus?.........Personally I would not go as far as saying that TACA competes with LAN, just look at their respectives P&L Balance sheets, PAX loads, Fleet & A/C orders, route network, Alliance member status etc...........TACA is slightly better than a lowcost at best.
And if its TACA in Lima you got in with, I believe you dont work for them really, you work for a service who is outsourced by the TACA Group.................
1 major Caveat re: TACA- I hope you have some hours under your belt as the starting pay for FO is sh1te, and it remains that way for 5 years, when you finally get full FO pay.......just ask some of the FOs there who are desperate to join LPE
And if its not TACA but another carrier in Peru, well what can I say.
Best of luck,
OW
PS. The language of this forum is English by the way....
And if its TACA in Lima you got in with, I believe you dont work for them really, you work for a service who is outsourced by the TACA Group.................
1 major Caveat re: TACA- I hope you have some hours under your belt as the starting pay for FO is sh1te, and it remains that way for 5 years, when you finally get full FO pay.......just ask some of the FOs there who are desperate to join LPE
And if its not TACA but another carrier in Peru, well what can I say.
Best of luck,
OW
PS. The language of this forum is English by the way....
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You're right, when you're right...
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I share your points, besides that TACA is not expanding/not in need for Pilots yet! Not in Peru, not in CenAmer.
After the accident in Honduras they were lucky to not go into the reds when Avianca almost "bailed" them out/ bought them really cheap.
But here is the weirdest thing: besides upping the Mins for Caps, they haven't changed a thing in their ops philosophy... so, when is the next accident coming? And would you want to be there when that happens?
Happy Landings
PS Again , I agree, the forum Language is ENGLISH!!!
I share your points, besides that TACA is not expanding/not in need for Pilots yet! Not in Peru, not in CenAmer.
After the accident in Honduras they were lucky to not go into the reds when Avianca almost "bailed" them out/ bought them really cheap.
But here is the weirdest thing: besides upping the Mins for Caps, they haven't changed a thing in their ops philosophy... so, when is the next accident coming? And would you want to be there when that happens?
Happy Landings
PS Again , I agree, the forum Language is ENGLISH!!!
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Now that there is a bit of Spanish here on this forum, The Caribbean and Latin America Forum is more active than it has been in years thanks to other people taking interest and trying to communicate in one of the major languages which they feel more comfortable in.
Why take that away?
As for TACA, they are starting to do some recruiting in Central America again. They have been approaching some of the pilots they tossed out over a year ago, asking whether they wouldn't be interested in maybe coming back? Of course, with a new seniority number.
Why take that away?
As for TACA, they are starting to do some recruiting in Central America again. They have been approaching some of the pilots they tossed out over a year ago, asking whether they wouldn't be interested in maybe coming back? Of course, with a new seniority number.
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And now it's FOs they need:
www.formacionpilotoslanperu.com
Best of luck to those in the running,
OW
PS. Peruvian citizenship is a must!
www.formacionpilotoslanperu.com
Best of luck to those in the running,
OW
PS. Peruvian citizenship is a must!
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FlyoingOw,
From your posts, you seem to be the most up to date as to the hiring process at LAN. Do you have an idea as to what the time frame is after you submit your CV before you hear anything back from them. Also, how important is having a personal referral from a LAN staff pilot or two or is that even a factor in the selection process. Lastly, how difficult it it really to take an ATPL exam in Spanish and are there any study materials that will help with the Spanish terminology? I meet all the criteria. I was born in Lima, currently live in the US, English is my primary language, but Spanish is my mother language, completely fluent in both. Any info will greatly help.
From your posts, you seem to be the most up to date as to the hiring process at LAN. Do you have an idea as to what the time frame is after you submit your CV before you hear anything back from them. Also, how important is having a personal referral from a LAN staff pilot or two or is that even a factor in the selection process. Lastly, how difficult it it really to take an ATPL exam in Spanish and are there any study materials that will help with the Spanish terminology? I meet all the criteria. I was born in Lima, currently live in the US, English is my primary language, but Spanish is my mother language, completely fluent in both. Any info will greatly help.
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Planeshots,
Here are some of the things I would consider doing.
1. Send your resume... do a follow up...
2. A referral is a plus, but I do not think a must...
3. ATP and Instrument written are the ASA format. I would study that. They give you a computer, and the test is in English, so no need to worry about the test being in Spanish.
4. Convert your Certificates. You will need to make a certified copy of the first and last page of your logbook and Pilot's certificate. The copy must be done at the Peruvian Consulate. You will need to take it to the Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores in Lima, so that the Consul's signature is verified.
5. Take these copies to DGAC and schedule your Commercial and ICAO Phraseology tests. Also, you will need an English Proficiency test done at one of the approved Euroidiomas' centers (easiest test of all)!
6. Wait....wait, and wait....
7. Eventually, you will be scheduled for the written, the formal interview (Make sure you have your licenses converted by this point), the Psychologist test, drug test, and the Sim ride.
8. Make sure you give yourself ample time to do this whole process. It took me three weeks to get it all done.
Fortunately, the people at LAN are so very friendly and will work with you, as long as you are constantly communicating with them. The Assistant to the Chief of Personnel is a very kind lady, and she will work with you to help you out.
Hope it helps.
Here are some of the things I would consider doing.
1. Send your resume... do a follow up...
2. A referral is a plus, but I do not think a must...
3. ATP and Instrument written are the ASA format. I would study that. They give you a computer, and the test is in English, so no need to worry about the test being in Spanish.
4. Convert your Certificates. You will need to make a certified copy of the first and last page of your logbook and Pilot's certificate. The copy must be done at the Peruvian Consulate. You will need to take it to the Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores in Lima, so that the Consul's signature is verified.
5. Take these copies to DGAC and schedule your Commercial and ICAO Phraseology tests. Also, you will need an English Proficiency test done at one of the approved Euroidiomas' centers (easiest test of all)!
6. Wait....wait, and wait....
7. Eventually, you will be scheduled for the written, the formal interview (Make sure you have your licenses converted by this point), the Psychologist test, drug test, and the Sim ride.
8. Make sure you give yourself ample time to do this whole process. It took me three weeks to get it all done.
Fortunately, the people at LAN are so very friendly and will work with you, as long as you are constantly communicating with them. The Assistant to the Chief of Personnel is a very kind lady, and she will work with you to help you out.
Hope it helps.
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Nutforflying,
Thank you very much for the response. Can you elaborate a little in refernece to the Commercial and ICAO Phraseology tests. They have a test for phraseology? If and when they call you for an interview, how long in advance do they schedule the interview. Will they give you enough time to get to Lima and get through all the certificate conversions? How much total time would I need to be in Lima to get through the whole process? I know that if I get through the interview process and get offered an position, I will need to move to Lima, but need to figure out a time frame so I can get back and get things straightened out here before I move down there. Also, can you give a brief description of the Sim ride? Once again, I thank you in advance for the info and your time.
Thank you very much for the response. Can you elaborate a little in refernece to the Commercial and ICAO Phraseology tests. They have a test for phraseology? If and when they call you for an interview, how long in advance do they schedule the interview. Will they give you enough time to get to Lima and get through all the certificate conversions? How much total time would I need to be in Lima to get through the whole process? I know that if I get through the interview process and get offered an position, I will need to move to Lima, but need to figure out a time frame so I can get back and get things straightened out here before I move down there. Also, can you give a brief description of the Sim ride? Once again, I thank you in advance for the info and your time.
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Well, both Commercial written and Phraseology tests are for the certificate conversion. For those you will need to study what is in the DGAC website. They have those published, and that is exactly what you will have... you also have the option of English or Spanish for the Commercial...
I have found that applying for a job in Peru, while you are in the US is a very expensive process. First, you send your resume. I really do not know if they will call you if you have a foreign address. Most likely they will send you an e-mail asking you to apply and the dates you plan to be in Peru. With that, they might, or might not, have evaluations those weeks. So, before the tickets are bought, make sure you have "una agenda de evaluaciones". For me, all the tests happened in a week. Then again, I was lucky that they had evaluations while I was there, except, I had to extend my stay, and pay the penalties for doing that. I know of people who had started the process and had to wait a week or two before they were asked to go to do an interview or the sim ride.
Sim ride is very basic: attitude control, situation awareness and CRM. You will be flying a B737 simulator (static, but full cockpit) with a co-pilot (who knows the plane). you will do a take-off, turn to the ocean, cleared to LIM VOR for the ILS B or C descent approach and landing. That is it!
Hope that helps.
I have found that applying for a job in Peru, while you are in the US is a very expensive process. First, you send your resume. I really do not know if they will call you if you have a foreign address. Most likely they will send you an e-mail asking you to apply and the dates you plan to be in Peru. With that, they might, or might not, have evaluations those weeks. So, before the tickets are bought, make sure you have "una agenda de evaluaciones". For me, all the tests happened in a week. Then again, I was lucky that they had evaluations while I was there, except, I had to extend my stay, and pay the penalties for doing that. I know of people who had started the process and had to wait a week or two before they were asked to go to do an interview or the sim ride.
Sim ride is very basic: attitude control, situation awareness and CRM. You will be flying a B737 simulator (static, but full cockpit) with a co-pilot (who knows the plane). you will do a take-off, turn to the ocean, cleared to LIM VOR for the ILS B or C descent approach and landing. That is it!
Hope that helps.
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Nutforflying,
Yes that does help. Thank you very much for that info. I'll start the process and see what happens, but the info you provided me with will help out If I get called.
Yes that does help. Thank you very much for that info. I'll start the process and see what happens, but the info you provided me with will help out If I get called.
