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almostbutnotquite 9th March 2018 17:20

Thank you for that info hitansh! I already have a diploma, and soon a degree in the health care sector. And I think the weather in Canada even makes it a better training ground, don't you think so?

hitansh 9th March 2018 19:53


Originally Posted by +TSRA (Post 10078397)
I usually get my morning rubbish from CBC, but this will do nicely; thank-you. A wonderfully, uninformed statement which immediately indicates a lack of research or knowledge by the poster to go with my morning coffee.

I feel like feeding a troll today.

There are many universities in Canada which provide training towards a pilot license in addition to providing world-class education towards an undergraduate science or management degree, both of which are transferable in the workforce. However, many overseas students look for "the quick fix" and stop their search at those schools that provide aviation diplomas at best or just the licenses at worst. While still valuable, these are not as transferable as a degree. With that said, many universities in Canada and the United States will transfer some or all of the license or diploma into credits towards a degree, leaving further education up to the student. Imagine that, taking on the responsibility for your growth and education instead of hoping it is handed to you on a silver platter with gold trim.

As far as progressive, one need only look at the popular websites (ScienceDaily, Phys.Org, etc.) to see how world-leading many Canadian institutions are, never mind those sites that sit behind the university firewalls. I'll grant you the flight departments of these universities are not challenging NASA for top research spot, but there is also nothing stopping a student from doing co-op research.

As far as weather goes, I guess you figure Canada ends east of Abbotsford. The breadth of Canada includes many locations that have very few poor weather days, and some places count lousy weather in hours over a year rather than days. It is one of the few countries where one can gain experience in almost all weather conditions our planet can throw at us. But yeah, I guess that's not helpful in learning how to be a pilot.

I'd keep going but frankly, this has gotten me through four cups of coffee and a muffin, and I have a honey-do list an arm long.

I hope the troll is well fed.

A person coming from abroad, spending loads of money will not like to sit at ground and wait for weather to improve that is why South USA is the most popular place to go flying and about the weather I heard it from a Captain who went for UPRT in Canada which he said is best in quality but bad and delayed due to weather.

Secondly, I have seen pilots in India having an Aviation Degree and Airlines don't care about it, no freaking value of that degree which took 3 years, maybe it is more valued in Canada or US(maybe). Aviation is not secure and even the fittest man has 1 % probability of getting unfit to fly (many go through this Ordeal in India) , so you need to have a second option to that.
That was what my opinion is based on.

hitansh 9th March 2018 19:56


Originally Posted by almostbutnotquite (Post 10078479)
Thank you for that info hitansh! I already have a diploma, and soon a degree in the health care sector. And I think the weather in Canada even makes it a better training ground, don't you think so?

It can turn into your advantage, only if you can thoroughly research and find a place where you get to fly at least 10 out of 12 months>
In case of India, weather is very ideal for learning, we have Rainy season , Fog, Hot Summers, Cold winters(no snow), Ranging wind speeds according to season etc and cost is round about the same.
And having a diploma is sensible.

almostbutnotquite 10th March 2018 11:21

Hi, hitansh!

If it costs the same, then it would be better to do it in Canada, at least the quality of life is better, and you get to experience a different culture, and meet people from different cultures as well. And also a more challenging weather, would give me better training, I reckon. In Manitoba, where Harv's Air is, I think we could get 330 training days in a year, so that isn't so bad, yeah?

Flightcpt. 10th March 2018 15:14


Originally Posted by +TSRA (Post 10078397)
I usually get my morning rubbish from CBC, but this will do nicely; thank-you. A wonderfully, uninformed statement which immediately indicates a lack of research or knowledge by the poster to go with my morning coffee.

I feel like feeding a troll today.

There are many universities in Canada which provide training towards a pilot license in addition to providing world-class education towards an undergraduate science or management degree, both of which are transferable in the workforce. However, many overseas students look for "the quick fix" and stop their search at those schools that provide aviation diplomas at best or just the licenses at worst. While still valuable, these are not as transferable as a degree. With that said, many universities in Canada and the United States will transfer some or all of the license or diploma into credits towards a degree, leaving further education up to the student. Imagine that, taking on the responsibility for your growth and education instead of hoping it is handed to you on a silver platter with gold trim.

As far as progressive, one need only look at the popular websites (ScienceDaily, Phys.Org, etc.) to see how world-leading many Canadian institutions are, never mind those sites that sit behind the university firewalls. I'll grant you the flight departments of these universities are not challenging NASA for top research spot, but there is also nothing stopping a student from doing co-op research.

As far as weather goes, I guess you figure Canada ends east of Abbotsford. The breadth of Canada includes many locations that have very few poor weather days, and some places count lousy weather in hours over a year rather than days. It is one of the few countries where one can gain experience in almost all weather conditions our planet can throw at us. But yeah, I guess that's not helpful in learning how to be a pilot.

I'd keep going but frankly, this has gotten me through four cups of coffee and a muffin, and I have a honey-do list an arm long.

I hope the troll is well fed.

This post made my day. I completely agree with what you say +TSRA, cause I'm a guy who spent hours researching about the best country (based on my situation) and then school for continuing my flight training and concluded that Canada, is it.

Flightcpt. 10th March 2018 15:25


Originally Posted by hitansh (Post 10077396)
In India the minimum requirement to become a pilot is to be a Grade 12th Passout with Physics, Maths and English as your subjects.
So you cannot find any job in India as a fresher therefore it is better to pass out from high school first then do it from Australia and according to Indians, Australia is a good place to learn flying, many Indians go to Australia for CPL.
Canada isn't ideal due to its bad weather, flying months are less plus Aviation degrees aren't very progressive or helpful to make you a pilot, it is better do it from a flying academy or after having a good graduation degree which can get you into an alternate job as a security measure.
All the best.

To be honest I feel that India is not suitable for my training needs as the training academies I visited in India had not shown the level of professionalism I saw in Australia and I'm pretty sure Canada. Also seeing that India is the only country (when compared to Europe, USA, Australia and Canada) that requires grade 12th for even converting a foreign licence, I feel that is has stuck to its old roots of "schooling is everything". A statement I disagree and dislike and so I've decided to explore other countries and I'm happy with my decision and to be honest would never want to fly in India unless I have no other option. Oh and as rightly said by +TSRA, please do your research well and don't trust what other people say. I however appreciate you taking the time to give your point of view.

paco 11th March 2018 09:17

If you think the EASA exams are over the top, India is even worse......

Flightcpt. 13th April 2018 17:45


Originally Posted by paco (Post 10079804)
If you think the EASA exams are over the top, India is even worse......

So I've heard.

Flightcpt. 13th April 2018 17:51

Update: I am still waiting for Harvs Air to give me a date for commencing my course. I received an email from them saying that their accommodations were full and because of that they aren't able to give me a commencement date. Im feeling a bit unsure about Harvs Air now, maybe cause Im sitting idle, dont know. I am however prepping for my PSTAR exam. I just want to get back to flying before I become further rusty. Any tip for me to stay busy in terms of aviation? Thanks everyone!

777humility 21st April 2018 10:34


Originally Posted by Flightcpt. (Post 10117352)
Update: I am still waiting for Harvs Air to give me a date for commencing my course. I received an email from them saying that their accommodations were full and because of that they aren't able to give me a commencement date. Im feeling a bit unsure about Harvs Air now, maybe cause Im sitting idle, dont know. I am however prepping for my PSTAR exam. I just want to get back to flying before I become further rusty. Any tip for me to stay busy in terms of aviation? Thanks everyone!

I got acceptance letter for flight training at Harv's air also. From Kenya but the embassy is really frustrating me. Been denied a visa twice but am determined it must be Harv's air. I also don't care where I'll get my first job after training for I do believe aviation is international. If I get my first hour building job in Canada then that will be fine, if I get it back in Kenya or anywhere within Africa again am fine with that, if doors opens in in Europe or Asia am still fine with that. As long as am below 40years am ready to work anywhere in even if its in Jupiter, Mars,Australia or Venus but when I'll turn 40 years that is when I'll be considerate on where to settle at careers wise. Been doing ground operations job for 4years now but moving to flying and want transport Canada license and being 27 years am trusting God that I'll go to Harv's air in steinbach and get my CPL before I turn 30 and also before I cab fall in love and commit

Donkey497 11th May 2018 20:01

So, are you dumping Harv's in favour of Fly Canadian now?

Flightcpt. 12th May 2018 02:19


Originally Posted by Donkey497 (Post 10144326)
So, are you dumping Harv's in favour of Fly Canadian now?

I'm not "dumping" Harvs donkey, Im just looking for other flight academies for my previous batchmates from Australia, cause its full here at Harvs. Cheers!

CaptainJainam 2nd October 2018 04:43

DGCA CPL training at Harvs Air, Canada.
 
Can anybody help me with honest reviews about Harvs Air in Steinbach, MB? I have heard the training is really good for Indian students as well and I plan to do my training there. I have also heard that the multi engine aircrafts there are not endorsed in India? Is it true? If yes, then where should I do my MER and IR from after my single engine at Harvs?


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