Flight Training Incident
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Flight Training Incident
Hey there,
I had a quick question. About 5 months ago I was on a routine training flight out of my home base airport (which is controlled). I unfortunately however began climbing too soon and blew airspace. Consequently I have recently been charged by Transport Canada and found guilty of blowing airspace. My question is, am I going to have difficulties in the future finding work as a pilot at any level of my career, be it my beginnings as an air taxi pilot or my application to the the majors. It should also be noted I was still a student pilot, on a routine practice flight. un-licensed.
Thank you in advance,
Avgas
I had a quick question. About 5 months ago I was on a routine training flight out of my home base airport (which is controlled). I unfortunately however began climbing too soon and blew airspace. Consequently I have recently been charged by Transport Canada and found guilty of blowing airspace. My question is, am I going to have difficulties in the future finding work as a pilot at any level of my career, be it my beginnings as an air taxi pilot or my application to the the majors. It should also be noted I was still a student pilot, on a routine practice flight. un-licensed.
Thank you in advance,
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Blowing airspace, IMO, is like breaking the speed limit. Yes its illegal, and yes (in certain provinces) you will loose points with the regulators, but in the overall grand scheme of things its not that major (all things considered).
Of course, you did not mention if, by breaking the airspace, you caused a potential collision with an aircraft operating in that airspace. If you did, thats a little more serious.
They (TC) will keep a record but I would not worry too much. If an employer ever asked if you have ever busted airspace, just answer honestly. They will be more impressed that you answer honestly than anything - besides, if you only hold a Student Pilot Permit right now, its going to potentially be more than 5 years before you're flying commercially anyways, which is as long as most employers want to know about your record for.
Plus - be careful with the whole "unlicenced" thing. a Student Pilot Permit authorizes you to operate an aircraft as Pilot-in-Command with strict restrictions, therefore you are responsible for your actions just as any other Pilot-in-Command. Of course, if your instructor was onboard they would be the Pilot-in-Command and you have nothing to worry about (other than a bruised ego)!
Just dont do it again and remember to run it through your SMS to find the root cause of your mistake then come up with your short and long term corrective actions!
Of course, you did not mention if, by breaking the airspace, you caused a potential collision with an aircraft operating in that airspace. If you did, thats a little more serious.
They (TC) will keep a record but I would not worry too much. If an employer ever asked if you have ever busted airspace, just answer honestly. They will be more impressed that you answer honestly than anything - besides, if you only hold a Student Pilot Permit right now, its going to potentially be more than 5 years before you're flying commercially anyways, which is as long as most employers want to know about your record for.
Plus - be careful with the whole "unlicenced" thing. a Student Pilot Permit authorizes you to operate an aircraft as Pilot-in-Command with strict restrictions, therefore you are responsible for your actions just as any other Pilot-in-Command. Of course, if your instructor was onboard they would be the Pilot-in-Command and you have nothing to worry about (other than a bruised ego)!
Just dont do it again and remember to run it through your SMS to find the root cause of your mistake then come up with your short and long term corrective actions!
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Most airline interviews are behavioural based. This means they will ask you questions about times you excelled at your job, and times you made mistakes.
If the day comes that you attend your first airline interview, and they ask you if you've ever screwed-up and you say "never" then don't plan on getting hired. What the interviewer wants to hear is that you've made a mistake, and then you learned from your experience so that it would never happen again.
My advise is to spend some time re-reading the air regulations, airspace definitions, and looking at your charts, so that you fully understand why the violation occured and so that you can help yourself and others from making the same error.
Then you will have one great learning experience to draw on at your first interivew. Making mistakes and learning from them can sometimes be the best thing that ever happens to a pilot.
If the day comes that you attend your first airline interview, and they ask you if you've ever screwed-up and you say "never" then don't plan on getting hired. What the interviewer wants to hear is that you've made a mistake, and then you learned from your experience so that it would never happen again.
My advise is to spend some time re-reading the air regulations, airspace definitions, and looking at your charts, so that you fully understand why the violation occured and so that you can help yourself and others from making the same error.
Then you will have one great learning experience to draw on at your first interivew. Making mistakes and learning from them can sometimes be the best thing that ever happens to a pilot.
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Avgas,
You got some really good advice there, go with that!
I will add that I blew airspace vertically a couple of months back while doing stall testing in a Navajo. Flight service called me during a dive test, which followed the flight test to tell me that I had. I was busy flying just then, so I did not pay attention.
The next day, I got thinking, so I phoned TC, and explained the whole thing. It would not make anyone happy, if the opening move from TC was to contact my client to ask who was flying his plane that day!
TC took all my information, and my explanation of paying attention elsewhere to keep the test safe and valid, and the mitigating things I had done (put the mode C on so others could see me on TCAS).
A few days later, I got an email saying that no action would be taken, and that was that.
I have never regretted being honest with TC enforcement types, in my few dealing with them....
Don't worry....
You got some really good advice there, go with that!
I will add that I blew airspace vertically a couple of months back while doing stall testing in a Navajo. Flight service called me during a dive test, which followed the flight test to tell me that I had. I was busy flying just then, so I did not pay attention.
The next day, I got thinking, so I phoned TC, and explained the whole thing. It would not make anyone happy, if the opening move from TC was to contact my client to ask who was flying his plane that day!
TC took all my information, and my explanation of paying attention elsewhere to keep the test safe and valid, and the mitigating things I had done (put the mode C on so others could see me on TCAS).
A few days later, I got an email saying that no action would be taken, and that was that.
I have never regretted being honest with TC enforcement types, in my few dealing with them....
Don't worry....
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Hello AV64
Those advice are good and follow them.
II'll just add : if your violation has been considered under Part7 of the Air Law then you can have your file cleared from this violation 2 years following the day you paid your fine, provided you don't have another violation within those 2 years. Send a letter to request this as everything in relation to that violation is a legal procedure.
Nobody can check your file in regards to this violation, unless a request is send to Transport. This request has to be signed by you, and the "employer".
Then Transport will contact you, to obtain your clearance and signature to give the available information contained in your file.
just make sure you keep that relatively secret, as rumor and reputation are quickly built and would not reflect what you are in reality. your first employer may appreciate that you've been a good student and learned from this error.
Before flying just make sure you now your airspace, what you're going to do and where, is it safe and is it legal ?
be careful and know your regulation in and out.
happy flying !
Those advice are good and follow them.
II'll just add : if your violation has been considered under Part7 of the Air Law then you can have your file cleared from this violation 2 years following the day you paid your fine, provided you don't have another violation within those 2 years. Send a letter to request this as everything in relation to that violation is a legal procedure.
Nobody can check your file in regards to this violation, unless a request is send to Transport. This request has to be signed by you, and the "employer".
Then Transport will contact you, to obtain your clearance and signature to give the available information contained in your file.
just make sure you keep that relatively secret, as rumor and reputation are quickly built and would not reflect what you are in reality. your first employer may appreciate that you've been a good student and learned from this error.
Before flying just make sure you now your airspace, what you're going to do and where, is it safe and is it legal ?
be careful and know your regulation in and out.
happy flying !
