Language Proficiency on Aviation Document Booklet
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Language Proficiency on Aviation Document Booklet
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I recently received my Aviation Document Booklet.
Next to the Language Proficiency it says English, but it does not specify the level of Proficiency as per the ICAO requirement.
I am not aware how others are giving their test, but I gave mine over the phone. So I do not have any proof of my LP except the entry in my booklet.
Would any one know how to go about finding how good Transport Canada thinks my language is ?
In the CAR they mention two types, Operational Level and Expert Level. Which one of them do I have ? (I know its probably Operational Level, but I need a piece of paper that says that).
When converting the License, the contracting states want to know the Level of Proficiency so as to mention on their Issued Document.
So before I spend days holding the Phone with TC pushing me from side to side, Any one successfully tried finding out the same before ?
Any input appreciated.
Thanks.
I recently received my Aviation Document Booklet.
Next to the Language Proficiency it says English, but it does not specify the level of Proficiency as per the ICAO requirement.
I am not aware how others are giving their test, but I gave mine over the phone. So I do not have any proof of my LP except the entry in my booklet.
Would any one know how to go about finding how good Transport Canada thinks my language is ?
In the CAR they mention two types, Operational Level and Expert Level. Which one of them do I have ? (I know its probably Operational Level, but I need a piece of paper that says that).
When converting the License, the contracting states want to know the Level of Proficiency so as to mention on their Issued Document.
So before I spend days holding the Phone with TC pushing me from side to side, Any one successfully tried finding out the same before ?
Any input appreciated.
Thanks.
You might just be level 6 or expert, since you are probably (more than likely) a native english speaker.
In Canada and the US they only display that you are language proficient in English (or french), and that is deemed satisfactory.
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H
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In Canada and the US they only display that you are language proficient in English (or french), and that is deemed satisfactory.
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The deficiency will likely be corrected when the next set of documents is printed. There is at least one other deficiency in the document that Transport Canada is well aware of, but the reason they haven't corrected it is because they printed thousands of extra copies of the booklets in the first printing, and are waiting for their inventory to be used up before making a second printing.
It's a trade-off between accuracy and cost. In the circumstances, they have opted for less than perfection in order to not waste tens of thousands of dollars chucking out the surplus inventory.
It's a trade-off between accuracy and cost. In the circumstances, they have opted for less than perfection in order to not waste tens of thousands of dollars chucking out the surplus inventory.
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@ heloguy412 ,
Thank you. I do not have a epass account (I am assuming that is what one needs to view personal details). I have applied for the same. Should be here in few days.
@Winnie ,
Thanks for the clarification. English is more like my third language. I am Indian and hold a Indian CPL converted from Canadian CPL. The Civil Aviation department here is going to start conducting tests for English Proficiency soon.
If I can submit proof of LP, I will save a lot of Time.
@OverUnder,
Thank You for the Input. I think Transport Canada made a wise choice.
Thank you. I do not have a epass account (I am assuming that is what one needs to view personal details). I have applied for the same. Should be here in few days.
@Winnie ,
Thanks for the clarification. English is more like my third language. I am Indian and hold a Indian CPL converted from Canadian CPL. The Civil Aviation department here is going to start conducting tests for English Proficiency soon.
If I can submit proof of LP, I will save a lot of Time.
@OverUnder,
Thank You for the Input. I think Transport Canada made a wise choice.
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I finally got around to getting the new abortion they forced us to get.
Until I can figure out a way to carry it with me it will stay in the drawer with my passports and other stuff at home.
In the unlikely chance In ever get asked to produce it I will show them my old one that has been in my wallet for decades.
Until I can figure out a way to carry it with me it will stay in the drawer with my passports and other stuff at home.
In the unlikely chance In ever get asked to produce it I will show them my old one that has been in my wallet for decades.
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epass ??? online account ???
@silent scream : what is an epass .. n where can we check the online account ... i did m training in canada as well ... well i have a separate document which shows my level and also notifys as expert. its the document that i got well before aviation document booklet was issued... i did my proficienc test by phone after ppl and got a letter kinda docuemnt issued from tc wich shows my level of proficiency as well . n again got it notified as expert alone in verification letter of my licence ... and also in my doceument booklet as english ... anyways didnt come accross this epass thing . could you plz explain and provide me the link ??? [email protected] this is my email id ... do post the link in there as well ... thnx ..
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This is the site that is being referred to:
General Aviation On-Line Services
The terminology has changed and it is no longer "epass". "Access Key" is the new term.
General Aviation On-Line Services
The terminology has changed and it is no longer "epass". "Access Key" is the new term.
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Do a search on Transport's web site above re Language Profiency ... It states that if you apply to your regional office a licence will be reissued without cost stating Language Proficiency level....They accept that the level must be stated, so as the licence can be used in foreign states.
I've just found this thread during my search for the answer to the OP's question, which I needed to know because I am in the process of validating my Canadian license in New Zealand.
The official answer can be found in AC 400-002 "Aviation Language Proficiency Requirements":
Advisory Circular (AC) No. 400-002 - Transport Canada
The official answer can be found in AC 400-002 "Aviation Language Proficiency Requirements":
Advisory Circular (AC) No. 400-002 - Transport Canada
Canadian licences do not list the holder’s language proficiency level. Applicants who demonstrate proficiency at the “Below Operational” level cannot be issued a licence. The “Language Proficiency” annotation on a Canadian licence indicates that the holder has demonstrated linguistic ability at or above the Operational level.
The ALPT rates language proficiency as either “Expert” (corresponding to ICAO Level 6) or “Operational” (corresponding to ICAO Levels 4 & 5) or “Below Operational” (corresponding to ICAO levels 1-3).
